Gouken is easy as crap to unlock, I actually did the unlock requirements for him as my first play as Akuma after unlocking him only to find you need to beat the game with him once before you can actually do the path to unlock Gouken. >;( Only given him a cursory playthrough though, I thought he was alright but didn't really grab me, my friend Az reckons he is a hax bastard though so. Was happy that someone in the game had the Shin Shoryuken though, wish that was Ryu's ultra instead.

Anyway yeah after playing this for a fair while, my random thoughts to throw out about this game are:

Seth definitely isn't as annoying as I'd heard him made out to be. The first time I played him I dealt with him Perfect first round and then about 75% health left in the second and had no idea what the fuss was about. Gave me more trouble second time round when I was using Ryu but still not all that bad. Maybe the copy i've been playing is just glitched but Rufus far and away is the most annoying cheapass hax in the game for mine, hate him with a burning passion.

think it was Trix who said the charge attacks are loose on this game, have to say I greatly disagree, have found the charge timing to be fairly ridiculous on occasions, although I have also been playing a lot of Battle Fantasista lately as well and charge attacks on that are easy as shiet so that may have something to do with it. But yeah trying to play as Chun-Li or M.Bison in this game makes me weep. Seth with Bison was a nightmare, that I will concede.

Also, Dan is an irrefutable badman and clearly the strongest fighter in the history of Steet Fighter. Anybody who disagrees is wrong. No, no. You're wrong. Get out of this thread now. Super Taunting into Rose's ultra is probably one of my favourite moments of SFIV so far. OYAJIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!