Street Fighter IV

[Rase]

Suitemate rented the game (along with Onechabara Bikini Samurai Squad...), and after some serious play time I must say it's a thoroughly fun game. While I'm far from amazing I still find it to be a blast, and certainly look forward to getting in some more play time throughout the week. I still really like Guile (even if I can't do him justice), and I've grown fond of Sagat and Vega. I basically and just goofing around with everyone to try them out, and so far it's all been good. Also, my roommate loves El Fuerte and Dan because of their quirkiness.

[Depression Moon]

Mine's is rented too and I feel kind of bad now after I've worked hard to do well that I have to take this game back by Thursday. Really, Dan and el Fuerte, I didn't think really anybody liked those joke characters.

[Lionx]

Dan i heard is actually pretty good in this game, and El Fluerte is similar to Guy in the sense of his Dash moves with an uppercut so i find him to be underused and has potential. He also has an infinite thats hard to do lol.

YouTube - El Fuerte Daipan Loop x 9

[Madame Adequate]

Everybody loves Dan, he's the best.

First I've heard of anyone liking El Fuerte though :o

[Lionx]

How can you hate the guy though? You might not like him but hate?

YouTube - IGN Montage - Street Fighter IV: El Fuerte

This guy is awesome, i like a fighter who can cook!

[Rase]

Well the thing is, neither of us are hardcore in the slightest, so we just do the "who do I like and think is awesome" approach. He always likes the quirky characters in games, so how could he not love Dan and El Fuerte would be a better question.

[Depression Moon]

I don't like Dan because he can't fight. he struggles to throw someone over his shoulder, trips over his own feet, and his pathetic hadoken only shoots off for three feet before evaporating.

I'll stick with my badasses which are the girls and Dhaslim.

[Markus. D]

You're not meant to hate Dan :[...

Aside from Pocket Fighter, this is as powerful he has ever been lol.

[Rase]

Also, while I'm in here and trying to get the most from this game before it's returned, I present you experts a question: Is there a reliable way to evade/deal with Abel's Tornado Throw and Zangief/Seths Spinning Piledriver? When not playing a character with reliable range attacks (Ry/Ken) or speed (Vega) I tend to just get hit by these moves over and over when facing the CPU. The Tornado Throw especially, since as soon as I start getting up Abel can just grab me and do it again with no trouble. What am I missing here?

[JKTrix]

Also, while I'm in here and trying to get the most from this game before it's returned, I present you experts a question: Is there a reliable way to evade/deal with Abel's Tornado Throw and Zangief/Seths Spinning Piledriver? When not playing a character with reliable range attacks (Ry/Ken) or speed (Vega) I tend to just get hit by these moves over and over when facing the CPU. The Tornado Throw especially, since as soon as I start getting up Abel can just grab me and do it again with no trouble. What am I missing here?

If you're not lying on the ground, just try to stay away from them. Poke and run with your longest range melee attacks. You can't break command throws here, which is something that was really hard for me to come to grips with.

When lying on the ground, your best bet would to be to try to do a 'reversal' attack. That is, doing one of your special moves as soon as you get up before they have the opportunity to do anything (You will see 'Reversal' come up on the screen if it's done properly--can also do it after blocking). If the special move you pick is too slow, the throw will beat it. Usually it's better for you to use an EX move, or a Super or Ultra since those tend to 'execute' faster than their normal versions.

[Lionx]

Abel's Tornado Throw has two properties, the normal version is unthrowable, and the EX one is unhittable(yet throwable). So its a 50/50 for him everytime he gets into your face. I know that i used Normal Tornado Throw and tossed Zangief out of his Ultra because i know one dude liked to use his SPD. I also EX Tornado Throw Ryu out of his Ultra before too. Shut that crap down lol.

A way to counter is to Jump up really fast (not all the time, else you eat Falling Skies) or backdash. I say backdash because in SFIV, backdashing has invincible frames upon startup. Its little but its enough for you to gtfo. If you're in the corner, then its 50/50 for both of you upon wakeup.

Usually an Uppercut can break those through very well, however if you arent a shoto, and is like say Gen's uppercut, you might have trouble with it. Best to do is to actually know how the opponent plays based on the visual cues and things that they do and try to counter/guess. Against Zangief its alot harder to just jump away in this game...so its about how you perceive the opponent will do.

If its against the CPU just stay the hell back like JKTrix said and keep using long ranged pokes.

[Rase]

Alright, gracias you two. I'll definitely give those ideas some tries later tonight.

[SuperMillionaire]

You know, the characters now have English voices.

Also, has anyone unlocked Gouken? He is the brother of Akuma and the master of Ryu and Ken. He as widely believed to be dead, as Akuma supposedly killed him, but it turns out that he's alive. Has anyone got to play as him yet?

[DK]

Gouken is easy as crap to unlock, I actually did the unlock requirements for him as my first play as Akuma after unlocking him only to find you need to beat the game with him once before you can actually do the path to unlock Gouken. >;( Only given him a cursory playthrough though, I thought he was alright but didn't really grab me, my friend Az reckons he is a hax bastard though so. Was happy that someone in the game had the Shin Shoryuken though, wish that was Ryu's ultra instead.

Anyway yeah after playing this for a fair while, my random thoughts to throw out about this game are:

Seth definitely isn't as annoying as I'd heard him made out to be. The first time I played him I dealt with him Perfect first round and then about 75% health left in the second and had no idea what the fuss was about. Gave me more trouble second time round when I was using Ryu but still not all that bad. Maybe the copy i've been playing is just glitched but Rufus far and away is the most annoying cheapass hax in the game for mine, hate him with a burning passion.

think it was Trix who said the charge attacks are loose on this game, have to say I greatly disagree, have found the charge timing to be fairly ridiculous on occasions, although I have also been playing a lot of Battle Fantasista lately as well and charge attacks on that are easy as shiet so that may have something to do with it. But yeah trying to play as Chun-Li or M.Bison in this game makes me weep. Seth with Bison was a nightmare, that I will concede.

Also, Dan is an irrefutable badman and clearly the strongest fighter in the history of Steet Fighter. Anybody who disagrees is wrong. No, no. You're wrong. Get out of this thread now. Super Taunting into Rose's ultra is probably one of my favourite moments of SFIV so far. OYAJIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!

[Depression Moon]

I have to get this game again. I wonder when any new tournaments are coming up. YouTube - SF4 International Exhibition 2009 - Iyo vs Pungko


And I don't see how Dan is the strongest in the series when he can't even walk straight.