Jiro: Hm, I've had green stuff spat at me, black, blue, yellow-green... But that could just be my graphics card(s), though. (My FF7 PC's been through a few of 'em, starting with a genuine, tried-and-true, Voodoo 2 with 12 Mb VRAM.)
Jiro: Hm, I've had green stuff spat at me, black, blue, yellow-green... But that could just be my graphics card(s), though. (My FF7 PC's been through a few of 'em, starting with a genuine, tried-and-true, Voodoo 2 with 12 Mb VRAM.)
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Haha, I remember running FFVII on my VooDoo 3 card! Good times, good times.
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Kitase: FFVII remake would be too different or too samey -Destructoid
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"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
I think the author of the article missed the point that Kitase would change VII if he did a remake. Kitase just recognizes that nostalgia would be a hurdle to go over but he sounds to me like he has things he wants to remove and new things he wants to add. I pretty much figure a VII remake would involve having to rewrite a few things to make it fit with the Compilation.
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Yeah, definitely would need a bit of rewriting. I'd be fine with it to be honest. If I don't like the changes made, I can always go back and play the original.
However, if they could put that effort and talent towards a new IP, reviving loved old IP, or to re-imagining the FF series then that'd be much better.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
I wouldn't mind any changes being made to fit with the other games. Really, the only reason I'd want 7 remade is to alter Vincent and Yuffie being optional characters and make them required just like the rest of the party. It was them being optional that got FF to actually stop having optional characters, you know.
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I kinda got the same impression as the author, that Kitase doesn't want to touch the game because it would be massively panned by devoted fans. Personally, I would like to see what changes they could bring to Materia and Weapon/Armlet/Accessory, if they could bring deeper customization options. I would also like to see them re-balance and re-scale the enemy difficulty. Other than that, I would really hope the graphics and music would only be "remastered" or recreated to their original design, instead of remade or reimagined.
And them re-writing it to fit the Compilation is nonsense. At this point I would like to see someone declare the entire compilation as non-canon for the original game, especially considering some of it is inconsistent. If they were to do this, I would criticize Square for not putting these resources into a much more meaningful project.
I probably feel he wants to change it because this was the version I read.Originally Posted by Bolivar
Final Fantasy 7 Director: HD Remake Would Have New Features The last line of the interview where he says it would be difficult to determine what to cut and what to leave in, sound to me like he would implement changes if given the chance. He sounds like any creator going back to a decade old project, he sees the flaws from his inexperience and would want to change it.
Dude, the 10th Anniversary Ultimania exist solely to connect VII with the rest of the Compilation. Expect the re-writes, you're going to now have to listen to Cloud do this:And them re-writing it to fit the Compilation is nonsense. At this point I would like to see someone declare the entire compilation as non-canon for the original game, especially considering some of it is inconsistent. If they were to do this, I would criticize Square for not putting these resources into a much more meaningful project.
Cloud: ...after Sephiroth saw the monsters in the reactor, Genesis appeared and goaded him, while his forces attacked Tifa outside.
Barret: Wait a minute, you mean the other legendary SOLDIER 1st Class was there too? I thought he died a year earlier?
Cloud: I though so too...
Tifa: Whatever happened to him?
Cloud: I don't know.
And you'll also get this Cloud mentioning the Turks dealing with and stopping Zirconiade (or however you spell its stupid name) and Jade WEAPON, probably see references to Deepground in the Shin-Ra building, Rufus will mention how Barret's terrorist group is a shadow of the true organization he himself ran, you'll probably stop by in Modeoheim, the remnants of Banora, and any other new location added. You'll probably have to see the opening to Dirge of Cerberus (which is the retcon excuse as to why you don't actually see Yuffie or Vincent in the original game's ending, they were in Midgard helping evacuate people) and you'll probably see some new additions to the ending that allude to Advent Children. It's coming man, just brace yourself and "enjoy the ride" as you always tell me.
True beauty exists in things that last only for a moment.
Current Mood: And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe. Maybe this year will be better than the last. I can't remember all the times I tried to tell myself. To hold on to these moments as they pass...
This is definitely something any artist would want to do. I know I see stuff I've done even just six months ago and cringe, thinking 'what the hell was I doing?'
I honestly have no issue with this at all. Have you played the original game recently? The world feels really empty, and it'd be nice to fill it with more history than it currently has. The best moments of the game involve the Shin-Ra and we barely get to know about the dirty-doings that they do, especially for an organisation that have taken over the world.
Dude, the 10th Anniversary Ultimania exist solely to connect VII with the rest of the Compilation. Expect the re-writes, you're going to now have to listen to Cloud do this:
Cloud: ...after Sephiroth saw the monsters in the reactor, Genesis appeared and goaded him, while his forces attacked Tifa outside.
Barret: Wait a minute, you mean the other legendary SOLDIER 1st Class was there too? I thought he died a year earlier?
Cloud: I though so too...
Tifa: Whatever happened to him?
Cloud: I don't know.
And you'll also get this Cloud mentioning the Turks dealing with and stopping Zirconiade (or however you spell its stupid name) and Jade WEAPON, probably see references to Deepground in the Shin-Ra building, Rufus will mention how Barret's terrorist group is a shadow of the true organization he himself ran, you'll probably stop by in Modeoheim, the remnants of Banora, and any other new location added. You'll probably have to see the opening to Dirge of Cerberus (which is the retcon excuse as to why you don't actually see Yuffie or Vincent in the original game's ending, they were in Midgard helping evacuate people) and you'll probably see some new additions to the ending that allude to Advent Children. It's coming man, just brace yourself and "enjoy the ride" as you always tell me.
On a side note, I'm always of the opinion that despite the IP being in the commercial domain that it's still the vision of the creators. Who are we to dictate what they want from the IP? It's their baby. If people truely dislike it, then don't pay money for it and they'll learn - but it'll still be their vision and theirs alone. I don't really get why people get in a huff, as if they've been betrayed.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
I do this as well. Probably why I don't post many things in the writer's corner.This is definitely something any artist would want to do. I know I see stuff I've done even just six months ago and cringe, thinking 'what the hell was I doing?'
I'm actually playing a new file right now, I'm up to the first Nibelheim flashback in Kalm. Personally, I felt VII did a great job addressing its backstory, definetly better than its predecessors. My real issue now, is that it doesn't mesh well anymore with the Compilation because they've changed who Shin-Ra were and details about "The Great War". I felt VII worked with the info they gave the player but now I don't see how it works with the Compilation and I feel they have undermined some of the original goals of the original game. Shin-Ra came to power thanks to the Great War which made people lose faith in their local governments, in the Compilation, Shin-Ra started the war and had already become the de facto ruler of the planet. Sephiroth's madness at the expense of learning the truth of the origin loses a great deal of impact when you learn its happened before and now its going to be strange trying to rectify how some guy who was manipulating Sephiroth 5 years ago is nowhere to be seen or heard of in present time. The original game has now lost its ability to stand on its own. Its become like Kingdom Hearts where you need to read up or play over multiple platforms all the different titles to get the overall tale. It would be fine if it was designed that way to begin with but this is an situation where the creators have tried to tack on more story without actually trying to make sure it works with the established mythology.I honestly have no issue with this at all. Have you played the original game recently? The world feels really empty, and it'd be nice to fill it with more history than it currently has. The best moments of the game involve the Shin-Ra and we barely get to know about the dirty-doings that they do, especially for an organisation that have taken over the world.
I would agree if this was normal circumstances, but VII had a few more prominent influences in its creation that are lacking here. It may have three of the four core members, but I feel there are other prominent people who were involved that don't get as much publicity that were also not involved in the Compilation. To me, its pretty much like the new Guns n' Roses, yes it has Axel, but without Slash and the rest of the gang, its only GnR in name, despite being helmed by one of the original creators. I also feel that the Compilation's existence stands in contrast to the original philosophy of the series that made it good in the first place.On a side note, I'm always of the opinion that despite the IP being in the commercial domain that it's still the vision of the creators. Who are we to dictate what they want from the IP? It's their baby. If people truely dislike it, then don't pay money for it and they'll learn - but it'll still be their vision and theirs alone. I don't really get why people get in a huff, as if they've been betrayed.
True beauty exists in things that last only for a moment.
Current Mood: And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe. Maybe this year will be better than the last. I can't remember all the times I tried to tell myself. To hold on to these moments as they pass...
You do have a point there, with all issues. I'm still not really that worried. I mean, I don't particularly like the Compilation but I've come to accept it. As an actual game Crisis Core was a lot of fun and I still really enjoyed the story, but I definitely see where you are coming from with Shin-Ra, Sephiroth and Genesis.
However, I think I like the fact that things feel a bit more full with the Compilation nevermind how overly convoluted it has become, just like Kingdom Hearts. It could have been done a lot better, and I really do wonder if the current FF7-related staff members could pull off a remake to be likeable by all, and also manage to tie in with the Compilation without stepping on too many toes.
I'd would love for them to try it. But as I said earlier, it'd be much better if they put their resources and talent in to newer projects.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
No, I definitely agree that, given the chance, he would want to change a lot, but I think he's adding to Square's position that it's not a tenable undertaking, in this instance because it could never appease the gamers who would want to buy it.I probably feel he wants to change it because this was the version I read.
Final Fantasy 7 Director: HD Remake Would Have New Features The last line of the interview where he says it would be difficult to determine what to cut and what to leave in, sound to me like he would implement changes if given the chance. He sounds like any creator going back to a decade old project, he sees the flaws from his inexperience and would want to change it.
Dude, the 10th Anniversary Ultimania exist solely to connect VII with the rest of the Compilation. Expect the re-writes, you're going to now have to listen to Cloud do this:
Cloud: ...after Sephiroth saw the monsters in the reactor, Genesis appeared and goaded him, while his forces attacked Tifa outside.
Barret: Wait a minute, you mean the other legendary SOLDIER 1st Class was there too? I thought he died a year earlier?
Cloud: I though so too...
Tifa: Whatever happened to him?
Cloud: I don't know.
And you'll also get this Cloud mentioning the Turks dealing with and stopping Zirconiade (or however you spell its stupid name) and Jade WEAPON, probably see references to Deepground in the Shin-Ra building, Rufus will mention how Barret's terrorist group is a shadow of the true organization he himself ran, you'll probably stop by in Modeoheim, the remnants of Banora, and any other new location added. You'll probably have to see the opening to Dirge of Cerberus (which is the retcon excuse as to why you don't actually see Yuffie or Vincent in the original game's ending, they were in Midgard helping evacuate people) and you'll probably see some new additions to the ending that allude to Advent Children. It's coming man, just brace yourself and "enjoy the ride" as you always tell me.
(SPOILER)Thank you, Wolf. Thank you for giving me migraines, cold sweats, and uncontrollable shaking, which only got progressively worse as I read further through this section in horror and disbelief.
I know how committed they are to this abomination, but I really just want Nomura or Kitase to download FFVII from the PlayStation Store, play it on their PSP during an international flight, and when they put the handheld down, to remember the Compilation and just go "Wow. We really f'ed up..."
Again, I'm all for a remake, and I'm for a lot of changes to the gameplay, but if the result is anything like what you posted *shudder* I won't buy it, and IMO they'll have wasted a lot of resources.
Oh please, stop being such a drama queen.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
I'm pretty sure they will try it because I'm sure "purist" like myself are merely a vocal minority. The Compilation was stated by Kitase a bunch of times as a success. So it stands to reason a remake would most likely be re-written to a minor extent to fit it into the new VII-Mythos that the Compilation created. I personally hate the Compilation but its not like it was written for someone like me who didn't adore VII. So I have no real qualms with Squenix adding the Compilation mythos into a VII remake, I just wouldn't buy it is all. If other fans can get behind it, good for them but I'll never understand it. I honestly don't feel the Compilation has added any meaningful background to the original VII.
Except a remake of VII is too good of a business proposition. I'm pretty sure it could be awful, and it would sell millions, XIII did and it hardly has the star power history that VII does. It would easily make back production costs and probably help Squenix finance all their projects for the next few years. So a VII remake is inevitable and I don't believe for one second that Kitase cares as much about old school traditionalist who don't want anything more than a graphical upgrade. I actually felt his words concerning these types of fans was a little like talking about a minor annoyance that would have to be pacified to some degree so he can have his way with a VII remake, not some re-assurace their opinion will largely dictate policy. He said they would cause some backlash if he removed some elements difficult for the staff, but never said they would prevent them doing so. You can say I'm just looking at this pessimistically, but I like to feel I'm just reading this as the PR bulltrout it really is.
That's why my middle name is "Dreamsmasher"
(SPOILER)Thank you, Wolf. Thank you for giving me migraines, cold sweats, and uncontrollable shaking, which only got progressively worse as I read further through this section in horror and disbelief.
I know how committed they are to this abomination, but I really just want Nomura or Kitase to download FFVII from the PlayStation Store, play it on their PSP during an international flight, and when they put the handheld down, to remember the Compilation and just go "Wow. We really f'ed up..."
Again, I'm all for a remake, and I'm for a lot of changes to the gameplay, but if the result is anything like what you posted *shudder* I won't buy it, and IMO they'll have wasted a lot of resources.
True beauty exists in things that last only for a moment.
Current Mood: And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe. Maybe this year will be better than the last. I can't remember all the times I tried to tell myself. To hold on to these moments as they pass...
Ironically appropriate you say "have his way" because that's exactly what he would do, he'd be metaphorically... DELETED: Rostum said to stop...raping the cherished memory of a masterpiece, violating the childhood of millions of his own fans, and sodomizing what little hope is left for the future of RPGs...
I doubt it. I think Velozer0 was the one to mention this when it came out, but these games look and run as if they were remastered and ported for the PSP and maybe a little better... Like I said, the gameplay could be better balanced and perhaps the script could use a little polishing (not too much, you need that raw imported anime feeling...) and no one would know the difference...That's why my middle name is "Dreamsmasher"
So you agree you were being a drama queen then?
(SPOILER) Because you were.
Let him screw it up, he has the right to. Some people will absolutely love it, some will hate it with a passion. You can't win either way. Even if he had stuck true to the original, there will always be a minority that will hate it no matter what.
I'd love it if it were just a matter of polishing the script and gameplay. I wouldn't mind it if there were subtle hints to previous events like Before Crisis and Crisis Core, but to make them something major would really detract from what the original game has - as Wolf Kanno said. I would still give it a chance if he does decide to butcher it.
The whole 'FFVII remake' is something I flip-flop around all the time. Sometimes I'm like "smurf it, just do it" and othertimes "Oh my word..." But overall I'm more for it.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
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