Brand New Trailer Revealed.

[Croyles]

I have the link to the official website and a downloadable link from that, respectively:
FINAL FANTASY XIII
http://dl.square-enix.co.jp/fabula/ff13/t7ick39w7.flv

North american site: (trailer has subtitles)
FINAL FANTASY XIII | SQUARE ENIX

Here are some gifs from the trailer:
http://i40.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/34i24g7.gif
http://i40.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/2yxrmnq.gif
http://i43.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/fd7z3a.gif

[Dreddz]

FINAL FANTASY XIII

Go to the trailers sections and watch the new trailer. To be honest......I'm not impressed. Not that I think it looks bads but I expected a hell of a lot more from FFXIII.

[Croyles]

Sorry man I already posted this here http://forums.eyesonff.com/final-fan...y-battles.html

[Dreddz]

I actually caught that in the corner of my eye but I just thought it was the jump fiesta trailer that was revealed for VSXIII ages ago. My mistake.

[Croyles]

Your thread title gets more to the point I guess lol, if a mod could just merge them or something that would be great..

[Anno Domini]

im not going to lie, i think its pretty baller
The game play seems to flow pretty well in some sort of real time gauge[sp?], linking of attacks and magic, mulitcharacter brawl fests, (and if im not mistaken) the very first boss fight we have seem come out of the FNC project! Im stoked! Woot Woot!

Oh, and it now seems apparent that the red-haired character [simmoan? simmean? whtvr] that is often depicted on Pulse was actually banished from Cocoon, AND being chosen by one of the crystals is less of a blessing and more of a curse. Who'd a thunk 't?

[Dreddz]

I can already tell I'm in the minority when saying I was not impressed. Who remembers the original trailer and how they depicted the gameplay there. Now I never expected they would be able to reach that target but geez did they under-perform. That didn't even come close to what that original trailer depicted. I was hoping FFXIII would transcend the genre and put JRPG's back on the map after a few depressing years but what I got was a cross between White Knight Chronicles and Star Ocean. It looks good but I personally think it shows that not even Square can do anything overly impressed with the genre anymore.

Ill even go into the graphics. The CGI looks very impressive but the in-game graphics not so much. Again, they look good but they aren't pushing the PS3 very hard at all. Expected Square could reach the heights made by the Killzone 2 devs but they didn't at all.

So ultimately Ill finish by what I've already said. FFXIII looks good, but not great. And great is what it should have been. Now all of you lot can flame me like I know you will.

[Wolf Kanno]

I'm in the minority as well Dreddz, . I'm very happy with a trailer that finally has gameplay but I was sad it looked like X-2's system reworked a bit. I was really annoyed that it keeps the whole "good guys on one side, bad guys on the other" with minor reaction and change of movement only during a characters "turn". The detail of movements was impressive though, but the action does feel slower than I anticipated and as I said, it feels like X-2's system without XII's freedom of movement.

I still just don't care for the game's world design though. The train section has a VII vibe (even the heavy use of Mako green), the NPCs and their outfits remind me of FFX's Dream Zanarkand, and I've already mentioned how most of the party feels like "borrowed" designs from previous Nomura works. The large "McGuffin" that reminds me of the Zohar from the Xeno series might be the Crystal. Which I'm guessing means the other tower thing we see trapped in ice, must be Pulse's Crystal and considering how the whole scene looks, I'm guessing the normal folk of Cocoon don't know that Pulse has a Crystal.

Overall, its the first trailer I've really liked cause SE finally delivered on a few things I wanted to see but I'm still not getting the whole "This looks SMURFING AWESOME!!! *wets pants*" that other people are feeling. I'm interested but I can probably wait.

[Croyles]

I can already tell I'm in the minority when saying I was not impressed. Who remembers the original trailer and how they depicted the gameplay there. Now I never expected they would be able to reach that target but geez did they under-perform. That didn't even come close to what that original trailer depicted. I was hoping FFXIII would transcend the genre and put JRPG's back on the map after a few depressing years but what I got was a cross between White Knight Chronicles and Star Ocean. It looks good but I personally think it shows that not even Square can do anything overly impressed with the genre anymore.

Ill even go into the graphics. The CGI looks very impressive but the in-game graphics not so much. Again, they look good but they aren't pushing the PS3 very hard at all. Expected Square could reach the heights made by the Killzone 2 devs but they didn't at all.

So ultimately Ill finish by what I've already said. FFXIII looks good, but not great. And great is what it should have been. Now all of you lot can flame me like I know you will.

Yes I remember that trailer and that battle gameplay is exactly the same quality as this new battle footage apart from one or 2 missing backflips... im confused by what you mean....

Only thing im not too impressed with at the moment is the design of the secondary characters... They seem a little too quirky and at the same time bland...

ill put my post in here:

I have the link to the official website and a downloadable link from that, respectively:
FINAL FANTASY XIII
http://dl.square-enix.co.jp/fabula/ff13/t7ick39w7.flv

North american site: (trailer has subtitles)
FINAL FANTASY XIII | SQUARE ENIX

Here are some gifs from the trailer:
http://i40.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/34i24g7.gif
http://i40.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/2yxrmnq.gif
http://i43.:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou:/fd7z3a.gif

[Dreddz]

Yes I remember that trailer and that battle gameplay is exactly the same quality as this new battle footage apart from one or 2 missing backflips... im confused by what you mean....

No way. The mechanics are similer but the cinematic presentation in the original trailer was far more impressive. I thought they were going to be able to present huge action set-pieces while still retaining the RPG mechanics. I was wrong. It just looks like an RPG still.

[Croyles]

Hold on, are you actually thinking of the ingame footage of that old trailer? There was only about 4 seconds of that, the rest wasnt ingame.

EDIT: Ok i just watched it and i can guess what you mean, although the only real difference it actually has is that the camera zooms in and out a lot, she does a backflip over the enemy, stops time and then kills them all. That time stop thing will be in the game.

In the new trailer you still see the enemies getting launched into the air etc, but the camera stays a bit more still, which is better to be honest. The cinematic camera might be cool for a couple of minutes but you wouldnt be able to know what your doing half the time, and where the enemies are etc...

All in all, i can see what you mean, but i dont share the dissapointment..

[Dreddz]

Hold on, are you actually thinking of the ingame footage of that old trailer? There was only about 4 seconds of that, the rest wasnt ingame.

Well none of it was actually in-game, it was all CG but what they showed that was mean't to represent gameplay still looks more impressive than what they have shown now. The main character was seen dashing through crowds, leaping over people and the camera was also more dynamic as it went from close-ups to long shots very quickly and fluidly. Go watch the trailer again and you'll see what I mean.

[Croyles]

i did watch it again, see my post ^
The biggest difference was the camera i think.

[GolliM]

I don't like the way they changed the "scrollbar" of commands to this weird bar-thing in the bottom :/ I hope it becomes a scroll bar after more commands are avaivable or something...

Are there any HP at all in the game? I mean this new "ATB cauge" seems to be BOTH MP and HP... At least the trailer showes that LIghtning has more than 800 ATB points (or whatever), but attack, fire, thunder and cure only take 1 ATB point.. and at many points Snow/Lightning get hit, the points also go down. Looks interesting but I hope they won't overdo it. Time will tell.

Oh, what do you think SERAH is? A god like fal'cie or a person (in the subtitles Lightning says _she_)... in Japanese they say sera.

[Dreddz]

i did watch it again, see my post ^
The biggest difference was the camera i think.

And just the fluidity of the combat as well. There is still something quite static about the attacking animations. Also the game just doesn't seem to have anything overly original going on either. I mean the gameplay just looks like a fast-paced ATB RPG with a combo system attatched which looks like it was taken straight out of White Knight Chronicles. It just seems like something I've played before.

Well because I've bitched long enough Ill say what I was impressed by. The art design and hyper-futuristic tone they are going for looks great. Ill admit that the girl in the white robe puts me off (looks a little cult'ish to me) and the bad-guys look like rejected designs from Killzone 2 but I can look past that. The music seems great and has a certain Final Fantasy flavour which I thought was missing from FFXII (there is a musical cue at 2.15 which feels like it was taken from the Galbadia theme from FFVIII, anyone else pick up on that?) And when all is said and done, the gameplay looks fun and the graphics are nice.