Dude, Bert, you should watch it if only for the female in the movies.
They even have the guy from the old cartoons doing the voice for Optimus. It is definitely full of 'changes' but if you watch it with an open mind it's quality. I still adore the old cartoons and everything, but as a standalone movie it still references the old-school stuff and keeps personalities as they should be.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
but Jazz dies and ironhide dies in the Cartoon movie! I can't watch my two favorite autobots die in one lifetime!
I heard Jazz is coming back this next movie. I could be completely wrong but I thought I read that somewhere.
Yeah, they cheat their deaths using the lifespark so I'm told.
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The reason for my comment really should be obviously. Michael Bay makes bad films with subpar plots, terrible acting and even worse scripts. The cinematography, music, and even your precious explosions in the original Transformers movie all were bad and underwhelming.Originally Posted by Mercen-X
Quoted for truth.I find it funny how no one cites or states grounded reasons for these comments. How could anyone not think Transformers was awesome? What the hell could it have missed? I admit, I would have liked a main character with a better name than Witwicky (not Spike, :shudder: ), but aside from that...This, though if the original cast is back and Michael Bay is directing again I wouldn't count on it.
Besides, Voltron was totally better than Transformers.
Shia LaBeouf? God I hate him too. He needs to gtfo of the movie business.
I thought the first film was ok. But my expectations were loooooooow. I'm not really too interested to watch another Transformer movie, and if I did, the only reason would be Megan Fox.
Yeah that idiot. I can't believe he's in like every movie now. It makes me sick and he's just so damn annoying.
People who say that Transformers is all about fighting robots need to think out of the box a little more. The first Transformers movie (the 1986 cartoon) had heart and emotive qualities as well as action. Optimus Prime dying was actually quite a moving scene in that movie. So shrugging off all those qualities is giving Michael Bay quite an easy time making these movies as he only has to think of ways to mangle pieces of scrap.
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The cheesy power-ballads in the animated Transformers movie killed any deeper meaning that movie could have had to me. Yeah, it was sad when Optimus died, but it was awesome when Hot Rod became Rodimus Prime and kicked Galvatron's and Unicron's ass, which is what Transformers is all about; silly Decepticons concocting some evil plot and the Autobots overcoming them in the end and kicking lots of ass along the way.
Therein lies the problem though. I wanted big flashy robot battles and a brainless plot. Instead I got a bunch of boring humans running around taking up 2 hours of screen time for no other reason than to have some semblance of a plot and about 20 minutes of robot fights with shaky camera angles that made it difficult to tell what was going on. Seriously, if I can't even tell what part of the robot I'm seeing half the time then something's wrong.
Next time Michael Bay would do well to keep in mind that the main characters should be the Transformers, not the stupid sacks of flesh they protect.
shia is good for the role cause he looks like an out cast, so ha.Shia LaBeouf? God I hate him too. He needs to gtfo of the movie business.
I thought the first film was ok. But my expectations were loooooooow. I'm not really too interested to watch another Transformer movie, and if I did, the only reason would be Megan Fox.
and megan fox was exalent to in her role.
I really hope not. Nothing against Jazz, he was the damn coolest character in the whole freakin' movie, but character resurrection is a weak plot element. At least Megatron becomes a different character when he's brought back. If they brought back, Jazz, they'd have to change him too and what the hell would he be then?
So, what kind of experience would have been whelming or so? And, yeah... Voltron... good concept but I'd kill anyone who shouted "Voltron Force" and tried to take themself seriously.
Admittedly, they could have spent a lot less time showing us who Witwicky was and definitely didn't need too much exposure to the agency and that annoying guy who led it. I liked the soldier subplot though.Therein lies the problem though. I wanted big flashy robot battles and a brainless plot. Instead I got a bunch of boring humans running around taking up 2 hours of screen time for no other reason than to have some semblance of a plot and about 20 minutes of robot fights with shaky camera angles that made it difficult to tell what was going on. Seriously, if I can't even tell what part of the robot I'm seeing half the time then something's wrong.
Next time Michael Bay would do well to keep in mind that the main characters should be the Transformers, not the stupid sacks of flesh they protect.
Anyway... Transformers battles are typically laser fights which wouldn't do for a live-action film. A semblance of plot is better than a brainless plot. Leave that to the cartoons.
Jack: How do you know?
Will: It's more of a feeling really.
Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?
Will: No.
If Demolition Man were remade today
Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
Huxley: NO!
Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
Huxley: You need to leave, John.
Spartan: But Huxley.
Huxley: Get out!
Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.
By the way, that's called satire. Get over it.
I wonder if some people expected to see humans in Jurassic Park or Jaws.Particularly in 'first' movies, you don't just throw things out there from the get-go and ignore the human viewpoint. You do it slowly, build up the excitement of seeing new Transformers one by one, that sort of thing. I'm sure in the next Transformers movie there will be a lot more viewing-time based on the robotic kind rather than the human kind, but you do have to keep in mind that this is a more realistic look at how humans would react to alien robots coming to Earth to use it as a battlefield. If you think that we'd all just sit back and only have two construction workers (or whatever, I can't remember) join a bunch of robots and then have little to no other humans get involved, you're kidding yourself.
Bow before the mighty Javoo!
I'm having a hard time taking this question seriously. Was it serious? I'm not sure. I would've probably enjoyed the movie had it not completely banked on the concept of people rallying around giant robots and terrible cgi explosions. But that's just me, I'm a little bit more difficult to reel in. A better script and acting would've been acceptable too. Some people are not built to act in action movies. Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox, decent actors in other settings, just don't make the cut.So, what kind of experience would have been whelming or so? And, yeah... Voltron... good concept but I'd kill anyone who shouted "Voltron Force" and tried to take themself seriously.
Also give Voltron a break, it was a product of the 80s. Transformers was just as corny.
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