need a new RPG

[The Man]

Overrated.

[NeoCracker]

OF the Dark Cloulds, 2 was superior, though quite a few people enjoyed the first as well.

My favorite part of 2 was "Crest, The Great Sage." Amazing story arc that was.

And of Wild Arms, I can't vouch for 1, but the rest are awesome as Bunny said. Especially 2 and 5. 2 has an amazing story and great characters, and while the battle system is fairly classic in style, theres enough quirks in it to make in pretty freakin' awesome.

4 and 5 use a very unique turn based sysem in which you move characers in a Hexegon Grid thingy. I have a hard time explaining it, but its simple, fun, and unique.

The wild arms also use a lot of puzzles to solve in order to advance. You get different tools that do different things on the map screen to solve them with. The only other rpg that did that well I can remember was Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinastrals for the SNES.

And major props for the Persona's.

[Wolf Kanno]

I can vouch for the awesome of Wild Arms 1 and 2. Both were excellent games, later titles were questionable...

I second Front Mission, Tactical SRPG robot action at its finest. While we're on the subject of RPGs with robots...

Xenogears: Probably one of the greatest RPGs ever made and even with its botched second disc and terrible translation, still puts 98% of all RPGs to shame in terms of story and depth. Its a bit fugly by today's standards but it still holds one of the more original battle systems.

Breath of Fire is another option as well. The first game is forgettable but the rest of the series is pretty fantastic. III and V are my personal favorites.

The Chrono games are also great if you haven't played them yet.

[NeoCracker]

How Could I forget BoF?

II and III are nothing short of amazing. Though if by V you mean Dragon Quarter, you are a failure of a human being. That was by far the largest blemish on the BoF series, and a disgrace to the Genre of RPG's.

[Wolf Kanno]

How Could I forget BoF?

II and III are nothing short of amazing. Though if by V you mean Dragon Quarter, you are a failure of a human being. That was by far the largest blemish on the BoF series, and a disgrace to the Genre of RPG's.

You are the one who fails at life my cracking friend, you lack the fundamental ability to know what "fun" is by ignoring Dragon Quarter which was an awesome game with an excellent story and innovative gameplay.

[NeoCracker]

How Could I forget BoF?

II and III are nothing short of amazing. Though if by V you mean Dragon Quarter, you are a failure of a human being. That was by far the largest blemish on the BoF series, and a disgrace to the Genre of RPG's.

You are the one who fails at life my cracking friend, you lack the fundamental ability to know what "fun" is by ignoring Dragon Quarter which was an awesome game with an excellent story and innovative gameplay.

You lack the fundamental ability to discern garbage from art I say!

You're probably the guy who let that dude submit a toilet seat as art to a museum.

[Markus. D]

How Could I forget BoF?

II and III are nothing short of amazing. Though if by V you mean Dragon Quarter, you are a failure of a human being. That was by far the largest blemish on the BoF series, and a disgrace to the Genre of RPG's.

You are the one who fails at life my cracking friend, you lack the fundamental ability to know what "fun" is by ignoring Dragon Quarter which was an awesome game with an excellent story and innovative gameplay.

You lack the fundamental ability to discern garbage from art I say!

You're probably the guy who let that dude submit a toilet seat as art to a museum.

Dragon Quarter wasn't so bad, just bland at the start... till about early mid-game.... a little odd, but solid. As they say it's all about first impressions, so I don't mind Neocracker's game related reactions (not either of you attacking eachother though).

[NeoCracker]

How Could I forget BoF?

II and III are nothing short of amazing. Though if by V you mean Dragon Quarter, you are a failure of a human being. That was by far the largest blemish on the BoF series, and a disgrace to the Genre of RPG's.

You are the one who fails at life my cracking friend, you lack the fundamental ability to know what "fun" is by ignoring Dragon Quarter which was an awesome game with an excellent story and innovative gameplay.

You lack the fundamental ability to discern garbage from art I say!

You're probably the guy who let that dude submit a toilet seat as art to a museum.

Dragon Quarter wasn't so bad, just bland at the start... till about early mid-game.... a little odd, but solid. As they say it's all about first impressions, so I don't mind Neocracker's game related reactions (not either of you attacking eachother though).

Don't worry. Me and Kanno attacking eachother is just our way of showing we care.

And oddly I had a friend who liked the begginning but hated as he got into it further. XD

[Wolf Kanno]

How Could I forget BoF?

II and III are nothing short of amazing. Though if by V you mean Dragon Quarter, you are a failure of a human being. That was by far the largest blemish on the BoF series, and a disgrace to the Genre of RPG's.

You are the one who fails at life my cracking friend, you lack the fundamental ability to know what "fun" is by ignoring Dragon Quarter which was an awesome game with an excellent story and innovative gameplay.

You lack the fundamental ability to discern garbage from art I say!

You're probably the guy who let that dude submit a toilet seat as art to a museum.

Dragon Quarter wasn't so bad, just bland at the start... till about early mid-game.... a little odd, but solid. As they say it's all about first impressions, so I don't mind Neocracker's game related reactions (not either of you attacking eachother though).

Don't worry. Me and Kanno attacking eachother is just our way of showing we care.

And oddly I had a friend who liked the begginning but hated as he got into it further. XD

I WUUUUVVVVV UUUUU!!!

Seriously, I do understand how people can not like it. Its innovations can be annoying for a lot of people and I can understand how people would get miffed at having to play a game a few times in order to unlock the whole story. BoFV is not for everyone but I felt it had one of the best stories in the BoF series, especially when it broke a few of the BoF conventions (Ryu can talk? Nina can't? *REJOICE*).

[Momiji]

There's this really great boring RPG called Final Fantasy 7. You ought to try it out pretend it doesn't exist. The main character is a badass pansy who doesn't know himself and travels around the world repeatedly has dissociative fugues combined with a touch of schizophrenia giving and taking a black stone to and from his worst enemy another pansy with a big sword with mommy issues. At the end the enemy gets the black stone and uses it to destroy the world. But this dead chick uses a white stone to save the world. Eventually the world fights back against both the black and the white stone and wins and nothing mattered in the whole first place so there was really no point in playing.

Fixed.

[The Man]

Nice summary of FFVII. I also like this one:

[NeoCracker]

Seriously, I do understand how people can not like it. Its innovations can be annoying for a lot of people and I can understand how people would get miffed at having to play a game a few times in order to unlock the whole story. BoFV is not for everyone but I felt it had one of the best stories in the BoF series, especially when it broke a few of the BoF conventions (Ryu can talk? Nina can't? *REJOICE*).

Seriously, I do understand how people can not like it. Its innovations can be annoying for a lot of people and I can understand how people would get miffed at having to play a game a few times in order to unlock the whole story.

Seriously, I do understand how people can not like it. Its innovations can be annoying for a lot of people\.

Seriously, I do understand how people can not like it. Its innovations can be annoying for a lot of people\.

You just ANSWERED why people hate it so much. It has nothing to do with the story at all.

Though I admit it was a little upsetting Ryu could talk.

Thats like making Crono talk.

[guffman]

ok i noticed a lot of arguing going back and forth, i dont want to have to read it all. can someone give me a readers digest version over here?

[NeoCracker]

ok i noticed a lot of arguing going back and forth, i dont want to have to read it all. can someone give me a readers digest version over here?

They say BoF V is a good game, and I debate its legitamacy as a game.

They like the innovative battle system, and I found it to be nothing but annoying.

And Kanno thinks toilets are art.

Thats the whole argument.

[guffman]

well toilets may not be art but as for what goes into them that may be... ok maybe not i was just trying to think of something slightly intelligent to say and failed...