I was disagreeing with the latter, but this is because what I thought you meant be "hip" was not what you meant by "hip".Originally Posted by Del Murder
By "hip", I thought you meant reactions or views; which most often I notice girlxgirl:, boyxboy:
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Yeah, but if you talk to girls a lot of time time girlxgirl = EWWWWWW boyxboy = awwww they're so cute <3<3<3
Unfortunately, some people get intimidated by teh gay and worried that they'll be raped by all gay people of their own gender or some.
There's also the lack of men going around claiming that we're just being exploited for gratuitious gay sex scenes. Most likely because 1) guys don't really care and in many cases actually would like this to happen and 2) I imagine the number of girls that would get off to gay men is far fewer than the opposite.
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In my experience, that's not necessarily true. Actually according to an article I read in the New York Times Magazine a couple of weeks ago, females can get aroused by almost anything with sexual intimations, regardless of whether the gender they prefer is even involved. Though of course, just because they're aroused doesn't mean they'll act on it, or even admit itI imagine the number of girls that would get off to gay men is far fewer than the opposite.
Yeah... I'm not entirely sure that is true in the slightest way.
Men tend to prefer visual stimulation while females tend to prefer emotional/sensational simulation. i.e. Dudes get pumped by porn and dudettes get pumped by a massage and scented candles.
Most girls will get pumped by porn but won't admit it or find the idea to "gross" to even watch it to begin with. Girls are just as visually stimulated as men are, if not more so.
The major strength of films like Brokeback Mountain and more recently Milk, come from the tragedy and inherent struggles and brutality that exist in those stories. I mean god, in both films you have people killed over their sexual orientation. It's shocking, it's tragic, it makes for amaaazing storytelling.
The genius of Brokeback Mountain existed in the tension of the storytelling. It was a constant push and pull. Like moments of the film where you just sink into the beauty and the bliss of the situation and then suddenly you're pulled out of it and there's this tense uneasy feel where the characters and by extension, the audience are bound by social constraints. The two words to describe Brokeback Mountain are freedom and suffocation.
Look at Harvey Milk's story. The first openly gay man to be elected into public office. And what happens? Death threats and eventually murder at the hands of a fellow politician.
A lot of the stories you hear in the news about brutal violence against homosexuals are committed against homosexual males rather than females. In general I do believe people are less... shocked by girlxgirl action than boyxboy action. That being said, there have been several Oscar nominated roles and films that feature lesbians. The Hours comes to mind. That was a great great film.
If Ang Lee had gotten his hands on a story as compelling as Brokeback Mountain (sad to say, but death really is compelling) and it featured lesbians rather than gays, then yeah, I do think it would have been an award winning film. Ang Lee is pretty genius.
It's true that we live in a patriarchal society. I do also think that male homosexuality is a bit more socially acceptable than female homesexuality.Yeah... I'm not entirely sure that is true in the slightest way.
I reckon it would have sold better; I never watched Brokeback mountain as guy on guy doesn't interest me and it's well known that men love a bit of girl on girl.
Ang Lee could film someone reading the phone book for two hours and have a good chance of making a decent film out of it, he's that good a director (OK, even he couldn't save Hulk though).
Would it have been so much a success? It would have been a different film so hard to say. I still think the quality would have been there anyway.
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I'm not entirely sure I agree with that. For my own part I've not encountered prejudice towards either since I left school, but it really does seem - from my own experience at least - that female homosexuality is more accepted than male. Males might be "Hur hur you just need a REAL man" towards lesbians, but in Western culture it very rarely goes beyond that (Again, as far as I've seen), whereas towards male homosexuality it goes, or at least used to go until very recently, right through to overt hatred, prejudice, and the occasional act of violence.
Of course, most societies are currently in a state of flux rapid enough to change mores and norms repeatedly within a person's lifetime. It's hard to guage what is what because in a few year's time, things are likely to be different.
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The gay boys are more controversial than the lesbos. Brokeback Mountain was so praised because it tackled something controversial. If it was about girls, it would be less controversial, and therefore, less praised. Simple math.
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FALSE.I'm not entirely sure I agree with that. For my own part I've not encountered prejudice towards either since I left school, but it really does seem - from my own experience at least - that female homosexuality is more accepted than male. Males might be "Hur hur you just need a REAL man
Female homosexuality is rejected in a different way than male homosexuality is. My best friend is in a lesbian relationship, and they are constantly told by straight men that they are going to be "smurfed straight." That's threatening rape, and I'd consider threats of violence to be violent themselves. Since we live in patriarchal societies, lesbians are viewed merely as silly, confused girls who don't know what they want - and obviously men know what's best for them. Lesbians are often targets of physical violence, though, too (mostly rape); two lesbian teenagers from a highschool in my city got pistol whipped just a year and a half ago because they were holding hands outside a movie theater. And even when no actual violence happens, men telling lesbians that "they just need a REAL man" is still as insulting and ridiculous as any male targeted homphobia.
The only reason lesbianism seems more acceptable than male homosexuality is because it is more acceptable to harass women verbally and expect them not to care in Western society >_>
I don't see how anything you've said supports your claim that female homosexuality is not more accepted than male homosexuality, Moon Rabbits. No one said it was completely accepted.
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