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    I went to see it with a friend, and he actually liked it. Wouldn't have thought a 26 year old male was the target audience, but hey!

    I think 11 year old emo girls will probably like it. Not really a lot there for anyone else (apart from an Iron and Wine song - awesome!).

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    Hey, I'm an 18 year old male and I liked the film. Having said that, whoever plays Alice Cullen is smoking hot, so I'd enjoy it regardless of the hideous acting that relentlessly butchered my senses. Seriously, cheer the smurf up Eddie. Way to ruin that character.

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    They did a very good job in terms of casting very attractive people. I think the only people that weren't all that attractive were Bella and Edward. It's a shame that none of the actors had any sort of chemistry with each other. Alice was almost exactly what I expected of her. But it's really, really difficult to mess up a character in the 30 seconds you are allotted for screen time.

    I'm still trying to figure out why minor characters got more screen time than the Cullen family.

    XD I did read all the books and I am currently reading "The host" and I also watched the film. Stephenie Meyer has a degree on english literature so let's face it she is not exactly dumb. She knows a lot of books, however the "Twilight" series are for young girls, and it's like cocaine, you read and you can't stop, but if you stop to read it again you get bored and it's crap because it has no depth, no meaning. It is an ok serial for teenagers and grown up girls. The scene of vampire that started glowing was gay, but we have to see that Stephenie Meyer is a woman and she writes like a woman, so is nearly impossible for men to enjoy her books.
    I disagree with everything you just said. Except for, maybe, the part about it being for young girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jowy View Post
    I don't need to see it to know that it's horrible.
    And I liked that Stephen King quote as well.

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    Twilight isn't the worst of the genre, though
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    At the beginning of every books it says there that she has a degree on English literature. The problem is by having a degree doesn't mean she has a pure talent for writing, she will never gain a prize for her books that's why it's called a best-seller! Almost all best-sellers are bad (I've read a couple and well it just made me realize that people now a days are stupid). There is a book that is way much worse than twilight and it's Portuguese.... it's actually even worse than Nicholas Sparks....

    I studied women literature last semester and trust me the only thing Stephenie Meyer lacks is: depth! She wrote nearly 2000 pages of a goddamn story about a vampire!

    So literature now a days has to do with sell-sell-sell! No one cares if it's crap or not! It's terrible and sad but it's the truth! People just want to read and not stop to think, so if a writer wants to be successful he has to please a large quantity of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    Stephenie Meyer is a woman and she writes like a woman, so is nearly impossible for men to enjoy her books.
    So if I'm reading this correctly, you're saying that I can't enjoy any literature written by a woman because they write like women, and I'm a man so of course I hate everything a woman has ever created? That is retarded.

    I don't plan on reading the books or seeing the movie, because every time I read/see something Twilight related, it basically confirms my suspicions that it's aimed at girls with immature notions of love and sex. What a waste of time.

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    Erm no, i am saying there are certain types of women in literature that write being a woman, portrait the role of women. Like in "Twilight" you read a story about a girl named Bella who falls in love with a vampire and so on... the good part of "Breaking dawn" was that we could actually see half of the action through the eyes of Jacob, but aside from that is Bella's point of view. But in "Little Women" which is a story about 5 women, it was also written by a woman and men can also understand it because it's more global. Lat semester I studied "Delta Wedding" by Eudora Welty and even though lots of people passed (also men) we got lots of headache to understand it. Something people don't understand. I only know two guys that read "Twilight" one absolutely loves it, he's obsessed with Stephenie Meyer and the other says Bella is a whore! guess who's the one that studies literature?^^"

    trust me if you read "Twilight" from a woman's perspective is a lot more different. try to read it thinking you are a lone girl and you will love it

    Anyway I can't seem to understand how these people get famous like this! They write a story and voilá best-sellers, money everything. People here in Portugal want to publish anything and not only have to pay but also it will be refused if the editors think it won't have success. Oh and of course you also need those damn good nepotism! The book might suck but if you're famous or someone in the family is famous you can have nearly everything you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    try to read it thinking you are a lone girl and you will love it


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    Yeah, a friend of mine does the projecting for my university's student cinema. He resented having to do the projecting for this film. And then it was sell out so he had to do a second screening after the first. He was not impressed. I thought it was hilarious.

    Yeah, I'll be honest, I've been tempted to see the film or read the books for a laugh, but I really don't think I need to do anything more than have the plot explained to me to know that it's terrible. It's a pity really because I did read a few pages of one of the books and it really wasn't very well written at all and I think it's a real shame that this is what people are reading and watching at the cinema. Granted, in people my age it's mostly been a case of swooning over Edward Cullen or whatever, but I do find it disappointing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polaris View Post
    trust me if you read "Twilight" from a woman's perspective is a lot more different. try to read it thinking you are a lone girl and you will love it
    I shouldn't have to try and put myself in the mind of someone else to enjoy a book. If it's well-written, then the book should do that for me.

    I get the impression that the only reason lone girls like this book is because it reads like their ultimate diary fantasy, not because it's a well-written book or whatever.

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    I am much in league with Boney King. While viewing books from different perspectives can aide in your understanding of the work and of literature of that kind in general; it should not be necessary for enjoyment of a well written book. An example is many of Miyazaki's films. They generally are enjoyable by just about anyone. As with all things you will have people who don't like it. However, the magic of good story telling is its ability to appeal to many different audiences all at once.

    Then you also have the technical aspect, which I hear is a bit simple in Twilight. Personally simple writing usually doesn't bother me. Anyways from what I have seen and heard of it, it seems that Stephen King has done well in summarizing it.
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    in the case of Stephenie Meyer, it’s very clear that she’s writing to a whole generation of girls and opening up kind of a safe joining of love and sex in those books. It’s exciting and it’s thrilling and it's not particularly threatening because they’re not overtly sexual. A lot of the physical side of it is conveyed in things like the vampire will touch her forearm or run a hand over skin, and she just flushes all hot and cold. And for girls, that’s a shorthand for all the feelings that they’re not ready to deal with yet

    If I ever get a good many hours to spare on something that there is a good chance I will find un-enjoyable I may take the time to read it just so that I can make a more informed analysis. And besides I am a helpless romantic so it might just appeal to me. Not likely, but it could happen. In addition I have a VERY wide reading range(I was praised with being able to enjoy practically any well written book). I like romance novels(I just don't like all the garbage that takes up valuable shelf space that could go to better books), I like Westerns, I like Sci-Fi, I like Fantasy, I like historical Fiction, I have enjoyed Christian Fiction, etc, etc, etc, etc. Likely though, I won't get around to it since I have a very large number of books/manga/anime that look much more entertaining on my to read/watch list.


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    I've read all the books, and really, they're not horrible. Sure, some parts of it are just awful (Renesemee, anyone?) but collectively, the books are fairly engaging in a soap opera sort of way.

    But when I say that the film was horrible, I mean that it was horrible on EVERY level. I don't think I've ever seen a film with such horrible editing. Any film student in Editing 101 could have done a better job in my opinion. The cinematography was just silly. The acting and dialogue was uncomfortably bad. To the point where I just couldn't watch parts of it, I was cringing too much. The director should have been super ashamed of what she had produced.

    The plot itself was the least of the film's problems.

    Buffy the Vampire slayer was able to tell an equally silly on paper story (human/vampire lurrrrve), but managed to do it with depth and gravitas. But Buffy had the benefit of a gifted writer/director and actors who could... well, you know, act. Just cause it was a vampire love story didn't mean that it had to be absurdly silly and unconvincing. You have the whole cast and crew of the Twilight film to thank for that. Meyers only deserves a small portion of the blame for that epic failure.

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    I just finished watching Twinkle Twilight.

    It really is awkward, but I think the baseball sequence is the funniest part. Regardless, I swooned, because Edward is adorable.

    I don't understand why he sparkles in sunlight, though.

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