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    Default Do you think 9/11 is a conspiracy?

    Ok, so I just finished watching, Loose Change. Alot of this movie makes really good sense. And please hear me out, I am in no way, trying to be disrespectful to anyone that this tragic event affected and my condolenses are with them, but I can honestly say I can believe that the government did this. IDk, what do you think?

    Here's the link if you'd like to watch it. Its only an hour and twenty minutes long and enjoyable.

    YouTube - 911 Loose Change (full-length)


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    No. I don't. And if you watch airplanes crash into buildings and think that that can't possibly be the reason for their collapse, then I question your sense of reality.

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    I refuse to buy into conspiracies and propaganda. I won't watch it for that reason.

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    I think people do not want to admit that the country is vulnerable and the government can be a mess. Conspiracy theories make the paranoid feel better in a bizarre sort of way, to think that the country did it to itself, that we're all-powerful and in control. Or something.

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    I blame the Smurfs.

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    Goblins. It was goblins what did 9/11.

    Seriously though, I've yet to come across the government which has the competence to run over a dog and make it look like an accident, nevermind one which would successfully be able to get the tens of thousands of people a conspiracy on the scale of 9/11 would require to play along, keep their stories straight, and have no smoking guns be revealed. Seriously. The US government can pull all this off, keep thousands of people quiet, convince the entire planet's mainstream media that it was someone else's doing, but their genius plot is going to be unravelled by some kid?

    Also if the government really did kill 3,000 people, I'm fairly sure they're not going to have a problem with doing in some punk from Colorado or whereever who unfurls their masterful scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawn of Sephiroth View Post
    Ok, so I just finished watching, Loose Change. Alot of this movie makes really good sense.
    No it doesn't, I'm afraid. Every point made by that film has been thoroughly debunked by people who actually know what they're talking about... all it's got going for it is the whole "trust us, we know what we're talking about because we're not those stupid experts who you can't rely on."

    Much like the "moon landing conspiracy" nuts, it's possible to make an argument that seems convincing, as long as you present it right and avoid asking some crucial questions, questions that'd topple the conspiracy theory almost instantly.

    There was a fairly solid rebuttal on YouTube - a couple of senior staff from Popular Mechanics on a panel with the 'Loose Change' creators. The PM guys gave reasoned, sound arguments against each point presented by the film, while the LC guys scoffed, whined and basically acted like children whenever they were confronted with actual science that went against their views.

    Like the moon landing conspiracy theory or intelligent design, it's a ruse that plays on the scientific and political ignorance of the audience. It can sway people who simply don't know any better. But the ability to make an argument that's convincing to the average person is not the same as being right in that argument.

    Simply put: the US government would not be capable of hatching a plot that'd destroy its own infrastructure, killing thousands of people including its own employees, without that information being either leaked, or uncovered by a foreign government. There'd be far too many people involved, all of whom would have to go along with every stage of the operation willingly and maintain their secrecy afterward.

    It's worth remembering that the September 11 attacks were the result of a conspiracy - a conspiracy by a group of fanatical, suicidal terrorists.

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    Loose Change was shown to be a load of e a good while back.

    Conspiracy theories are made about anything and everything. Hell, even the Flat Earth Society are still hell bent on showing the world that the earth isn't actually spherical and the hundreds of pictures taken were all edited (yes, even the 60s) by NASA (because only the Americans have ever been to space).

    West-hating nutters flying bomb-laden planes into the two tallest buildings in the world is a lot more plausible than the American government murdering thousands of americans and foreign nationals for no reason other than to begin the WAR ON TERRER and blow the US Dollar into oblivion.


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    Conspiracy theories are stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caraliz View Post
    Conspiracy theories are stupid.
    Can't agree with you there...Id say that most of them are stupid and unfounded but that can't be applied to all of them. Saying that conspiracy theories are stupid(on the account of some really silly ones that you're familiar with) is equally stupid to saying that the governments were newer involved in conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trancekuja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Caraliz View Post
    Conspiracy theories are stupid.
    Can't agree with you there...Id say that most of them are stupid and unfounded but that can't be applied to all of them. Saying that conspiracy theories are stupid(on the account of some really silly ones that you're familiar with) is equally stupid to saying that the governments were newer involved in conspiracy.
    It's all Nixon's fault. He birthed conspiracy theorists.

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    People can be stupid, and some of these people make movies.

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