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    And then left the crater, chasing off his opponents allowing Sephy to get his shield up. Maybe they weren't being controlled outright, but I think they had a poor at best understanding of the situation.

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    To Jaffer: Well I didn't necessarily consider Shinra a hidden antagonist or anything of the sort. That statement I made earlier was to show that there is a force behind the big strong villain. But you are right. Shinra just wanted to create the ultimate solider, right? with Sephiroth, at least. And they didn't really manipulate...it just got out of hand. I understand where you're coming from.

    I only know the VII story from the game itself to AC. So I don't know anything pre-game.

    Weren't the Weapons just targeting Junon and Midgar because they used to much Mako energy and they saw that as a threat to the planet?
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    >>> It all begins with Shinra..
    >> The black orb glitters ominously... but nothing happens..

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    Quote Originally Posted by black orb View Post
    >>> It all begins with Shinra..
    I think it all starts with the parents, those Shinra people must not have been loved when they were little

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    I'm telling you it's that little kid Shinra. and that Rin guy. Can't they just leave their diabolical plans to spread light in the world at peace?

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    Hahah have you seen how boring spira is? well I mean I don't know how lively it is in X-2, but from what I've seen so far, people just live in fear...or blitzball. hahaha that kid put some spice in the future.
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    A random sadness that I had about FFVII was towards the beginning when Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie died. Was it just me, or did anyone else think Jessie had a thing for Cloud? :o

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    Off course she did, as did every other man and woman regardless of their original sexual preference in this videogame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaffer View Post
    And then left the crater, chasing off his opponents allowing Sephy to get his shield up. Maybe they weren't being controlled outright, but I think they had a poor at best understanding of the situation.
    Sorry for the late reply.

    I don't think they would be helping Sephy. I mean, if they had an 'understanding' then they'd know that it was him who summoned Meteor and him who was going to take all of the Lifestream.

    Afterall, they were released after seeing Meteor coming to the planet - they wern't released even after all those years of Shinra sucking Mako out of the Planet.

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    The weapons arent there to kill whoever/whatever is harming the planet. Theyre there to whipe out everything on the planet whenever it is threatened so then the planet lives and all threats will be gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    The weapons arent there to kill whoever/whatever is harming the planet. Theyre there to whipe out everything on the planet whenever it is threatened so then the planet lives and all threats will be gone.
    What I'm saying is that they wern't there to protect Sephy from threats that were being made to him (By Shinra and Cloud), as Jaffer said they were.
    I also just thought I'd back this up by saying they only came out when Sephy threatened the planet with Meteor, not when Shinra was destroying the Planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyros View Post
    The weapons arent there to kill whoever/whatever is harming the planet. Theyre there to whipe out everything on the planet whenever it is threatened so then the planet lives and all threats will be gone.
    Actually they were created to defeat jenova, but by the time they were ready there was not a threat anymore. They lie dormant awaiting for the day jenova returns.

    But there is a line that suggests they destroy everything. Not sure how that works.
    Last edited by seiferalmasy2; 10-06-2009 at 07:53 AM.

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    I don't remember anyone saying anything about them being specifically there to defeat Jenova. I've been replaying the game in the past few days, and I'm at the part where I have to go to Corel to collect the huge materia, which is after they've explained the weapons' purpose. Destroying everything is pretty self explanatory b/c if everything on the planet is gone then the world will still be there and be able to survive. There wasn't a need to unleash the weapons on shinra b/c they weren't anywhere near destroying the planet yet, just slowly weakening it with their reactors and whatnot.

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    The weapons are properly explained by Ifalna (bare in mind that the translation was poor, but this seems reasonable):

    Ifalna: "Yes, Professor. The one the Professor mistook for a Cetra... was
    named Jenova. That is the 'crisis from the sky'. The Planet knew it had to
    destroy the 'crisis from the sky'
    ... You see, as long as Jenova exists, the
    Planet will never be able to fully heal itself."

    Gast: "Back then, Weapon was a weapon the Planet produced of its own will?"

    Ifalna: "Yes, but... There is no record of Weapon ever being used. A small
    number of the surviving Cetra defeated Jenova, and confined it. The Planet
    produced Weapon... But it was no longer necessary to use it
    ."
    </pre>

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    So that just pretty much says the weapons were made to rid the planet of any threat it saw to itself. Just in this case it was Jenova but doesn't mean Jenova's the only reason weapons exist. idk where this convo is from though b/c don't remember it in FFVII or AC and don't care to play any of the other FFVII stuff.

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