Squall is Zell in X-ATM092`s POV

[Serapy]

It's a teaser, and to properly tease, they put in a conglomerate of different things to give a more balanced version of game play.

I don't see why would they do that when they were rushing to finish VIII. Not enough time.

There's another reason that it's not a teaser: there are certain texts at the end of the trial version, saying chapter name and what's next to be continued in the final version (I'm on a different PC, I'll edit this when I'm on main and re-check the FMV.) So, that implies that it cannot be a teaser.

My opinion is the same as usual: you're reading too much into something that's not really there.

But they are really there. The changes are evident in the final version.

[Future Esthar]

In 63:86:54 there is actualy an arm alongside with two shoulders(independents of the arm).

[Serapy]

In 63:86:54 there is actualy an arm alongside with two shoulders(independents of the arm).

[demondude]

You guys ever been laid?

[Serapy]

Thier conception changes can be suggested by some actions later in the game, e.g.

Selphie asked Squall for a tour of the garden.
Rinoa asked Squall for a tour of the garden as well.
That is weird, don't you think/
Did Square repeat Rinoa's action for Selphie?

Have you seen the background of Selphie`s The END limit break? I have a very strong feeling that it's meant to be Rinoa`s limit break because of the background resemblance.

They replaced Rinoa with Selphie for the orphanage scenes.
Ultimecia saying SEED in six times a row, Rinoa and Irvine were meant to be SEEDs.
Selphie doesn't allow Squall to use her computer in Trabia. If that was Rinoa, it makes more sense.

I know the trial version is not canon, but thier changes are visible in the final version, so that makes the changes more or less canon.

[Future Esthar]

That´s exactly the picture Serapy.
"Shoulders" is not the proper word.
I am referring to the middle division of the arm.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

It's his jacket.

[Future Esthar]

A jacket don´t curve over near the body.

EDIT:Also look at the transition between 63:86:54 and 63:87:91.
Its easy to see that was the middle of the arm.

[McLovin']

Its a small jacket and he is running. It curves a little. It isn't an arm.

[Future Esthar]

You didn´t read this McLovin

Also look at the transition between 63:86:54 and 63:87:91.
Its easy to see that was the middle of the arm.

[ReloadPsi]

Have you ever, at any point in your life, considered emailing Square-Enix in the vain hopes that someone might actually answer your questions and help with your theories?

And if that's Zell, why did his sleeves suddenly get rolled down? When Zell's in Garden uniform he has his sleeves rolled up.

There's also the issue of whether they decided to make X-ATM092 see heat signatures in the finished version.

(Yes, this is essentially a repeat of the reply I posted earlier but I was hoping it might be addressed... or scare them)

[Serapy]

Have you ever, at any point in your life, considered emailing Square-Enix in the vain hopes that someone might actually answer your questions and help with your theories?

A lot of people have tried emailing them before, and they didn't get any conventional reply. It's not because they don't want to reply, but because they want to keep VIII's reputation safe. They have done the same thing with the other Final Fantasy games.

You want to find out? There's one way; arranging a shadowy interview with one of the creators. In order to do that, you'll need to join a gaming magazine company (e.g. The Playstation Magazine.) and pray for your boss to tell you to meet the Final Fantasy mafia.

I have three reasons why specific theories (such as R=U, S*R, A=U, U*TC, etc) don't show up in any gaming magazine is because ... if one of the creators say "Ummm, no comment", "Only the fans know *laughs*" or something similar, that does not warrent their comments enough to appear on the magazine. Or, it's simply because the editor's lacking knowledge in VIII. Or, it's because VIII is a very old game, not enough incentive to interview the guys again.

There's another way to find out, become good friends with one of the creators!

And if that's Zell, why did his sleeves suddenly get rolled down? When Zell's in Garden uniform he has his sleeves rolled up.

Consider the hair difference.

There's also the issue of whether they decided to make X-ATM092 see heat signatures in the finished version.

I'm not sure what do you mean.

[ReloadPsi]

There's also the issue of whether they decided to make X-ATM092 see heat signatures in the finished version.

I'm not sure what do you mean.

A heat signature. You know, when they use one of those funky cameras that make people show up brighter so that they're more visible; it's based on body heat. Many modern military uniforms prevent a person's heat signature from showing up on such cameras, and I would expect the Garden uniform to be no exception. Squall's head is exposed though, and he's sprinting his ass off, meaning the parts of his body that aren't concealed by his uniform are gonna show up very brightly on account of how hot all that running's gonna make him.

And that hair isn't spiky enough to be Zell's. The overall shape of the head is still far too round, and we still haven't established where Zell suddenly had the time to roll his sleeves back down. The shot that IMMEDIATELY follows the one you're trying to analyse clearly shows him with his sleeves still rolled up so that would be impossible.

Basically, you're seeing body heat, lit up for the purposes of the robot to determine what is an organic, living target and what is not.

[Serapy]

But explain why his hair brightness is inconsistent. If X-ATM092`s POV is based on heat, then surely his brightness will stay consistent?

If something blocks the visible image of the hair, rendering his hair inconsistent. That, I would understand. But there's nothing that blocks his hair's image.

[ReloadPsi]

No, the heat signature thing was another thing that was different in the demo version.

Either that or a mistake was made. The same kinda mistake that makes Sephiroth keep taking off his gloves during the FMV at the end of disc 1 in FF7.