DLC for PS3, BULL****!

[Dreddz]

Ninja Gaiden 2 was awesome.

It's really sad to hear gamers sound like business students throwing financial statistics at you instead of discussing the actual software.

Welcome to the information age. And yeah it does suck that gamers all have to have an active interest in the financial side of this console war. Its like we're all shareholders all of a sudden. The real "winner" in my opinion is the one who pushes innovation and trys to shape this industry into something better and Sony seem to be the only ones who are actively trying to do that. You have to respect a company who are in a financial crisis and still throw lots of money at ballsy projects like Littlebigplanet and the upcoming Heavy Rain. I wanna see Microsoft do more of that instead of paying for DLC and robbing exclusives. Give us some new IP's!

I said good, folks, not overhyped, overrated new versions of old games. Of the Wii games listed there are possibly three worth getting :monster:

Oh come on, the Wii has way more than that. I'm the one who apparantly hates the Wii and even I can name at least a dozen titles for the Wii that are worth my money.

[Momiji]

robbing exclusives

Are you still going on about that

[Madame Adequate]

See, now, the PS3 isn't something I want enough to spend that much money on yet, but that's a list of games mostly worth having. Unlike a certain other console.

However, this line:

Ninja Gaiden 2, Gears of War 2, Halo 3 and Fable 2 were all universally critiqued for either being inferior or too similar to their predecessors.

Is complete bull, except perhaps for Ninja Gaiden 2 because I wasn't paying attention. The other three are widely regarded as being excellent sequels which built on previous strengths, reduced previous weaknesses, and were generally totally awesome.

A simple search for the reviews or conversation with gamers will bring up other opinions.

Apparently you don't know what the words "universally" and "critiqued" mean. Some people have made those claims. Those people were wrong. If people don't like those games that's fine, that's their business, but their personal taste with regards the game overall doesn't change the objective facts that those games added to their predecessors. I'm not even going to start on the idea that there is something wrong with a sequel to a massively successful game being much akin to it. I'm just not.

I said good, folks, not overhyped, overrated new versions of old games. Of the Wii games listed there are possibly three worth getting

Oh come on, the Wii has way more than that. I'm the one who apparantly hates the Wii and even I can name at least a dozen titles for the Wii that are worth my money.

If you, or anyone else, can name me twelve non-remakes/non-Virtual Console games right now, that I want to play, that I can't get a superior version of on another console, I'll probably go out and buy one. Here, I'll even get you started:

• Zack & Wiki.
• No More Heroes.
• Super Mario Galaxy.

[Bolivar]

Welcome to the information age. And yeah it does suck that gamers all have to have an active interest in the financial side of this console war. Its like we're all shareholders all of a sudden. The real "winner" in my opinion is the one who pushes innovation and trys to shape this industry into something better and Sony seem to be the only ones who are actively trying to do that. You have to respect a company who are in a financial crisis and still throw lots of money at ballsy projects like Littlebigplanet and the upcoming Heavy Rain. I wanna see Microsoft do more of that instead of paying for DLC and robbing exclusives. Give us some new IP's!

THANK YOU. I remember in previous generations we all talked about which system had the better games, which had developers that were utilizing technology better, but now, because it's 8 million units behind a competitor who has been out a year longer, at the same time it's focusing on a portable system and a 10-year-running one, Sony is all of a sudden in "deep trouble" and "in danger of losing".

Apparently you don't know what the words "universally" and "critiqued" mean.

Look, I wasn't bashing any of those games. It's just there's no innovation. I'll agree with Dreddz that NG2 was awesome. But I was much more impressed the first time around, as most were. Same with Gears of War2. It's a great, solid game. But what was really added other than a few new combat features and a new game mode? The engine still looks like UT3 & GoW1 to me. I think Yahtzee put it most humorously, Fable 2 is Fable 1 with a dog. And you don't have to go very far to find shooter fanatics who say Halo 2 was better than 3, for any number of reasons.

Is there anything wrong with that? NO! That's completely a great 2008 lineup (minus H3 2007). It just wasn't the best 2008 lineup.

On topic, there's actually been a good amount of crazy PS3 DLC when you think about it. Valkyria Chronicles got some, and the Titan Map Pack of Unreal Tournament III was something it got that was missing on the 360. Also, it was free. And then there's the Little Big Planet MGS4 add-on that was awesome for so many reasons (Speedy Rexecutioner Trophy FTW).

As with other stuff there's been killzone and resistance2 ones recently, not to mention all the millions other to come out under the sun from 3rd parties. So yeah, all I can really think of is GTAIV and Fallout3, but again, there's just been so many great (and exclusive) releases since then, why would I even bother?

[Dreddz]

• Zack & Wiki.
• No More Heroes.
• Super Mario Galaxy.

• Madworld
• Deadly Creatures
• Nights: Journey of Dreams
• Little Kings Story
• House of the Dead: Overkill
• Ghostsquad
• Tenchu: Shadow assassins
• Boom Blox
• Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles

I'm sure you will disagree with this list but I'd buy all of the games above personally. The Wii can cater for hardcore gamers if you look hard enough. It may not have many big-budget releases but it has a nice selection of niche titles. Particulary the lightgun genre which has been forgotten almost entirely by developers. Couple its current library with its upcoming one and you've got a system worth buying.

Admittedly I am disappointed with the Wii though considering its the fastest selling system of all time and still has a far inferior library to the PS3 or 360.

[KentaRawr!]

• Zack & Wiki.
• No More Heroes.
• Super Mario Galaxy.

• Madworld
• Deadly Creatures
• Nights: Journey of Dreams
• Little Kings Story
• House of the Dead: Overkill
• Ghostsquad
• Tenchu: Shadow assassins
• Boom Blox
• Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles

I shall now edit this list to fit my opinion.

• Madworld
• De Blob
• Wario Land: Shake it
• Little Kings Story
  
• House of the Dead: Overkill
  
• Excitebots: Trick Racing
  
• Metroid Prime 3
  
• Boom Blox
  
• Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles

[Madame Adequate]

I just love that I explicitly said I was aiming to wind people up, proceeded to do so in the same post, and managed to get it going this far. For the record, there are now five games on the list, and I might consider adding Deadly Creatures if it looks particularly more fun than I anticipate. But yeah I'm not too sold on any console where a rail shooter constitutes a sales pitch.

And you don't have to go very far to find shooter fanatics who say Halo 2 was better than 3, for any number of reasons.

Reasons which include infections, trauma, and autoimmune reactions that cause brain damage. I can see a case to be made that Halo CE is better than Halo 3, in fact I've been tempted to say as much myself at times - if CE had online multiplayer as good as 3's, I quite probably would say exactly that. But Halo 2? Short campaign, unsatisfying resolution, poor optimization, and poorly balanced weapons? Compared to other games Halo 2 was fairly awesome. Compared to CE and 3 Halo 2 is highly disappointing. Except for Headlong and Coagulation. Headlong needs to be in 3 and Blood Gulch/Coagulation are far superior to Valhalla.

[KentaRawr!]

I just love that I explicitly said I was aiming to wind people up, proceeded to do so in the same post, and managed to get it going this far. For the record, there are now five games on the list, and I might consider adding Deadly Creatures if it looks particularly more fun than I anticipate. But yeah I'm not too sold on any console where a rail shooter constitutes a sales pitch.

If I may ask, what are the five games on your current list?

[Madame Adequate]

• Zack & Wiki.
• No More Heroes.
• Super Mario Galaxy.
• De Blob.
• Boom Blox.

[KentaRawr!]

• Zack & Wiki.
• No More Heroes.
• Super Mario Galaxy.
• De Blob.
• Boom Blox.

Bleh.

[Depression Moon]

I agree about some of the downloadable content and like you said a lot of it comes from microsoft paying exclusive money.

It's a shame that the PS3 version of SFIV doesn't have the save replay data while the 360 does or that the PS3 really doesn't have any DLC for GTAIV. I just recently obtained my PS3, so I don't have many issues with it. I like the things I'm seeing in Little Big Planet though.