I just wanna say I take credit for single-handedly reviving this thread (
) but more importantly I'm glad to see we're putting some things on the table.

Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
RPGs don't really seem to get much coverage like they use to unless it has Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts in the title or if its part of Morrowind or made by Bioware.
Dude, that's how our market economy works. Firms don't have enough resources to supplement every title with block-buster advertising, so they funnel the consumer to a select few titles while allowing the rest of the genre to serve as a long tail. It has nothing to do with the attitudes of average game players or the quality of mainstream nor obscure games.

If Paris Hilton talked about Devil Summoner, X-Play gave it a 5/5, the fanboy idiots at Kotaku quoted its developers out of context (re: MGS4 is Not Revolutionary by Mike Fahey), and the localization team gave gameplay tutorials at Gametrailers, it would probably sell a million plus.

Side Note: Crackdown sold 1.5 million units, and pound for pound it's still a poor man's GTA so your example fails on two fronts.

My only problem with this is that its something that Square did with Chrono Trigger 14 years ago. In fact its a pretty common theme in a lot of RPGs in the PS1 and 2 eras. So for me, it might be thought of as progress for the FF series but I feel its more like "catching up".
Man, I love CT so much, that entire chapter blew my mind, and that game was lightyears ahead of its time, but you pretty much summed it up in your own response. The title of the thread is "true series progress" not genre progress or platform progress, so it seems you're aware of your own straw-reaching to take pop shots at Nojima while agreeing that he's expanding on previously established themes of the series.

Quote Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryushikaze
I assure you that I find your admiration for Nomura, Kitase, and company is at least as insane as you might find my dismissal of them.
I don't give two flying smurfs about your dismissal of a development team, I think it's great that we have a place where people can intelligently put that on the table, but if you can't do that without ridiculing someone's ideas, you have no business being in a constructive discussion about it. I was under the impression you people banned posters for that. :rolleyes2