Squall is Zell in X-ATM092`s POV

[Serapy]

Ok, look at the images carefully. Remember that each comparsion (between Trial and Final screenshots) I have taken are set at the exact same frame numbers.

Compare the brightness of Squall`s hair in the Trial and Final versions.








The FMV quality of the Trial Version is not exactly perfect compared to the Final Version one, I know. But even if it was both the same quality, the brightness on Squall`s hair is still different. I have messed around in Photoshop to make the background in the Trial version look exact the same as in the final version, nothing.

Also, if you watch the final FMV (in animation) carefully. You will notice that the brightness of Squall`s hair becomes inconsistent in every 2 or 3 seconds till he reaches the vessel. So, consider that if the POV is just like that (darker to brighter in night time) then there`s NO reason for the brightness of Squall`s hair to become inconsistent. So, it cannot be the POV or the reflection from the sky that did the effect. The weather would have to change from night to day in every 2 or 3 seconds in order to make the brightness of Squall`s hair look brighter or darker.

So, therefore. I believe that Squall is Zell at that exact point due to some side-effects of time paradox.

Look at Rinoa and Zell in the vessel, they both LOOK the same in the Trial and Final versions` FMV. SquareSoft didn`t change these parts, including the shadows of Selphie and Zell running down the beach chasing from the mighty robot.

Instead, SquareSoft have decided to change Squall`s model and added the brightness effect to his hair in the FMV ... ?

Think about it. If you were an employee in this scenario, it`s likely that you go:

#1 "Ok, we change these old models because our producers said so..."

#2 "Ok."

*Changes Squall`s clothes in the FMV*

#1 "Hold on a second, why not add something interesting.. like something flashy effect to that model?"

#2 "Hmm, I think that will cause the players some confusion.. perhaps not."

Both #1 and #2 laughs.

#1 "Oh, time is lunch! Man, I`m so hungry. Let`s go."

*After lunch.*

#1 "I think the fans will like it, really. Okay, so what`s now? Oh, yeah. Removing the Ending credits of the Trial version."

What is the outcome of this? This was thier distraction! This DISTRACTED them from changing parts like Rinoa and Zell in the vessel! They have forgotten! Oh my cats!

[Future Esthar]

Thanks for addressing this Serapy.
I theorized that the robot sees Zell inside Squall long ago.
It is time justice is starting to be done to my theories.

[roen]

Hmm that's neat and I never thought about that.

[Future Esthar]

Either zell´s consciousness is inside Squall or they are genetically related or both (showing how Zell can be Squall´s son since a consciousness álways travel to the past).

[Ouch!]

They've teamed up. Not touching this one.

[Future Esthar]

Exactly.In a non conventional way which they don´t realize.
This is done nearly everywhere and without it our characters would be manipulated clowns with an evil destiny.
Zell wanna Squall to make it fast to the ship and this had an esoterical influence.
And they don´t need Ellone to do it.

[FFIX Choco Boy]

I never noticed that, huh.

Side note: Gah! FE and Serapy have the same avatar. So confusing...

[Skyblade]

As much as I wish to avoid this thread like the plague, I find I must ask this question:

What the heck is the trial version, and what is the final version? You never explained what the two versions are.

[Lawr]

As much as I wish to avoid this thread like the plague, I find I must ask this question:

What the heck is the trial version, and what is the final version? You never explained what the two versions are.

The Final Fantasy VIII Demo takes place during the Dollet mission. There are a lot of differences to cutscenes and other things, like the characters wearing their normal outfits, and Rinoa is there too.

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Unless by "Trial Version" he's talking about something else...

[Serapy]

As much as I wish to avoid this thread like the plague, I find I must ask this question:

What the heck is the trial version, and what is the final version? You never explained what the two versions are.

I've explained in a different thread:
http://forums.eyesonff.com/final-fan...ml#post2663390

The trial version is the very first demo version that came with the Final Fantasy VII Platinum Edition for PC.
The demo version (not to be confused with the trial version) is the second demo that was released before the PSX retail version. This version shows that SquareSoft had changed things.
The final version is the retail version and it consists of the demo version (the second one.)

[Skyblade]

So this entire theory rests on the fact that the trial demo was different than the retail game? What gave you any indication that the trial demo was canon? Trailers/previews are almost never canon.

But please, if your entire theory is about something in another thread, either post it in that other thread, or redefine/quote what you're talking about in the new one. Threads should be able to stand alone. Thanks.

[Serapy]

So this entire theory rests on the fact that the trial demo was different than the retail game?

It's the other way around. We are focusing on the retail version, and I've just shown the trial version to show what had SquareSoft change from. Of course, the trial version is not canon. However, this kind of action is an effective way to look at conception changes made by SquareSoft and determine the possible outcomes. Without seeing the changes, we would have had harder time determing the outcomes, right?

But please, if your entire theory is about something in another thread, either post it in that other thread, or redefine/quote what you're talking about in the new one. Threads should be able to stand alone. Thanks.

That thread I linked was for a different theory with the kind-of same base.

[Ouch!]

So this entire theory rests on the fact that the trial demo was different than the retail game?

It's the other way around. We are focusing on the retail version, and I've just shown the trial version to show what had SquareSoft change from. Of course, the trial version is not canon. However, this kind of action is an effective way to look at conception changes made by SquareSoft and determine the possible outcomes. Without seeing the changes, we would have had harder time determing the outcomes, right?

This might be a logical conclusion if not for the fact that a lot of the time, differences between the demo version of a game and the final product are not necessarily due to concept changes in the script. In fact, I'd wager a guess that they rarely are. Significant changes, such as Rinoa's inclusion in the party for the demo when she had not even been introduced yet in the final version of the game, are conscious decisions used to make the demo more fluid (or to show off different things in game play). It's a teaser, and to properly tease, they put in a conglomerate of different things to give a more balanced version of game play.

My opinion is the same as usual: you're reading too much into something that's not really there.

[Future Esthar]

What serapy is trying to tell you is that the image in the robot in the trial version LOOKS LIKE SQUALL and the image at the same instant in the retail version don´t look that much.
It´s logical that the game designers would choose the model that looks more like Squall to put in the retail version and that is the model we see in the trial version.
But that didn´t happen.
We conclude then that Squall is not supposed to be in the image on the retail version.
In fact the image is there before that instance and keeps changing in a blinking way.
People could argue about the ambience light.But that didn´t make sense as Serapy explained.
Can´t you see the picture looks like Zell?
I played ffviii enough to know Zell´s back.

And I swear I am not Serapy.

[nik0tine]

What serapy is trying to tell you is that the image in the robot in the trial version LOOKS LIKE SQUALL and the image at the same instant in the retail version don´t look that much.
It´s logical that the game designers would choose the model that looks more like Squall to put in the retail

No, it isn't. In the trial version Squall wore his normal emo jacket, but in the final release he was wearing his SeeD uniform. It would make absolutely no sense for them to leave Squall in his normal clothes in the FMV.