What if?... and this is a big IF...

[NeoCracker]

A comment on the Entity in Chrono, I recall Kishi bringing up an interview with the writer, and apperently the Entity was suppose to be translated as the will of the Planet. Though, for some reason, the Translation team chose to use Entity instead.

[Wolf Kanno]

I originally believed it was the planet and I am pretty certain it is, but after CC it wasn't impossible to believe they retconned it for Schala instead.

[NeoCracker]

Schala was definately the catalyst for events in Cross, yes, however she was only able to call out to Serge at the point where the two worlds connected, and no where else.

I don't recall her ever showing signs of being able to interfere with any other point in time and space other then there, so I don't think it's likely she caused the time anomalies in trigger.

[Wolf Kanno]

On her own she could not but after merging with Lavos she could have the power to do it. Its mentioned in Cross that she had a bit of her sanity left but was losing to Lavos. Its possible she could have then orchestrated the events. We know Lavos is capable of creating Time Gates so its not outside the realm of possibilities that Schala could have used that ability to orchestrate the destruction of Lavos in the main timeline but then start the ball rolling for her own escape in Cross.

[NeoCracker]

But it's after she's fused with Lavos she interacts with Serge, and it's after that point that in cross she shows no signs of being able to interact with any other point then the Beach she first does it. If she had the power to create time gates, you'd think she would have made use of this ability again during Cross in order to defeat Lavos, however the only power she shows is being able to create a bridge between the two worlds, allowing Serge and the others to cross over. And even then this is not indefinate, as the Astral Amulet was still required.

It seems like a stretch to think she had the ability to actually create something like a time gate of her own free will based on what we see her being capable of doing.

In a sense, it's kind of like the R=U theory, albeit far less silly, and the concept actually makes sense, though it's similar that it's based of assuming things that dont' actually have any kind of solid basis, and goes very strongly against Cannon.

Don't get me wrong, making the theorys is very fun, but for me it's just as much fun to go against your theories. Though I have been known to make my own silly theories about these games. XD

Like the Idea that the entity was actually fate, though the creation of fate requires the defeat of Lavos in Trigger, thus creating a Time Paradox in order for it to actually work.

[Wolf Kanno]

Hey, I always said it was a theory and I don't intend to push the issue as fact but just present the odd possibility.

Its not completely against Canon when you put in the DS version (SPOILER)itself as The Time Devourer is now part of the game and has its own ending for CT. We bear witness to a Schala who had only recently emerged with Lavos' remains. She is still somewhat cognitive and uses the power of a gate to send a future version of Magus away from her. She also sends your own party away after defeating you (even though you actually won) and remarks that power alone cannot stop this new form. The game basically implies that the CT cast did all they could.

Schala also makes a statement that literally implies that Lavos is affecting her mind but can also be suggested to imply she may have tried to change history.

Schala: It is no doubt but a matter of time before Lavos consumes the whole of
my awareness. It was I, after all, who wished it—wished from the depths
of my sadness and despair that all that was would be erased.</pre>

[NeoCracker]

You know me though wolfy, I like arguing over things from time to time.

The only problem with that is that wasn't the Time Devour, it was the Dream Devourer of an alternate Timeline I believe, I might be a bit off.

I always thought of that as being part of the Radical Dreamers Time line myself.

[Wolf Kanno]

It connects to Cross very much as well so it could go anywhere really.

[NeoCracker]

The only thing I recall connecting Radical Dreamers to cross was the Terminal in Chronopolis talking about the alternate time line, which was a reference to Radical Dreamers, a timeline that, on large, isn't really effecting the Trigger and Cross time line.

Unless you speak of this additional ending connecting to cross, in which I see no way in how it does. Explain yourself whelp.

[Wolf Kanno]

(SPOILER)The Dream Devourer is said to be an early stage of the Devourer of Time, quite possible before it merged with the Dragons of Cross. The whole dialogue with Schala after the battle not only has her speaking of events that transpire in Cross but eludes to the fact that force cannot free her which coincides with the final battle with her in Cross.

Also, Kato has said RD isn't really canon anymore so why would the extra ending and boss fight move towards a greater connection with Radical Dreamers. Then ending strongly hints to the events of Chrono Cross and actually gives a bit of the answer concerning Magus' fate after CT.

[NeoCracker]

I don't recall Cross even mentioning the Dream Devourer honestly, though it's been a few years.

And I know RD isn't Cannon, it's an alternate universe not connected to the main story. I just thought it was being used as an amusing reference to a forgotten game rather then something to further the story along.

I'm going to have to replay cross soon to see whats up with this Dream Devourer thing.

[Wolf Kanno]

Its not mentioned in Cross but due to what the Dream Devourer looks like, fans feels its an early stage of the Time Devourer.

[NeoCracker]

Having rewatched the secret ending in CT DS, I have a question. Does it really say To be continued in Chrono Cross like in that youtube video, or did they edit that in themselves?

Also, that video in and of itself makes it seem unlikely that Schala did any of it. She wasn't even trying to stop Lavos from killing you or that Magus, until the very end. And it's not until that point she regains her sanity, from the other Magus's final attempt to 'open her eyes' as it says.

Then, she manages to send you back to your own time, and she doesn't seem to have very long left to hold onto her own conciousness.

The reason I think it connects to Radical Dreamers, and not to Cross, is that when the other Magus lands back into a place in time, while he forgot his memories, he is determined to search for whatever it is he must find.

However, in Cross you never run into him, even though this makes it look as though he should be a very active force if it were to be true.

In Radical Dreamers, however, he is the faithful guardian of Kid, AKA Schala, so it makes more sense to me that it was the Magus of Radical Dreamers, and not the one of the normal Chrono Story line.

[Wolf Kanno]

No, the to be continued isn' there.

As for the Magus bit, that still goes against canon for RD as Magus is well aware of his own identity and watches Kid from the shadows.

[NeoCracker]

I don't recall it ever saying to much about Magus/Magil in RD. We know from the CT ending that Magus was searching for something, even if he didn't know what it was.

There is an undisclosed amount of time between when Magus landed, and when the events at Viper manner began.

I say it's possible that in that time frame, either he managed to regain some of his memories, or he's simply drawn to Kid, unsure of why, but feeling it has to do with what he is searching for.

It seems more likely to me, if only because the CT bonus ending in the DS version strongly hints at that Magus's involvment in future events, something that just doesn't happen in Cross, but does happen in Radical Dreamers.