Tactics Advance Help please!

[Kumo]

I've looked online and asked at other forums, but to no avail. I'm trying to master this game and I'm currently sitting at 289 missions complete. The level I'm kinda stuck on is the "Why am I wet?" Level that requires a Red Mage. I have a level 34 and a level 31 red mage, but they only have the "walking" (50/50 chance) instead of the "jumping (90% chance) of passing the mission. I've tried a few times just taking the mission and passing it, but after 3-4 tries, I want to try and get the red mage up to jumping level so I don't have to keep killing 15 enemies over and over again.

Are there any tips of getting your characters up to those jumping levels for the later (lvl 7+) missions? Like do I have master jobs to get them stronger, or just level them up to higher levels? Please give me some tips!

[Skyblade]

FFTA actually has a fairly in depth unit-competence mechanic. The first factor is a formula that is derived from your unit's HP, MP, Atk, Def, Pow, Res, and Level (Speed does not count, for some reason, but boosts from equipment do).

Then there are bonuses, the first of which is for being in an unlockable job (you have to have a Red Mage for that quest, so the bonus is there automatically [Red Mage is unlocked by having a Fencer A-Ability]).

There is a recommended job bonus (which doesn't apply, since there is only a required job for that quest).

And then there is the Clan Skill bonus. Every quest which can be completed by Dispatch in the game has a recommended Clan Skill that goes along with it, in addition to the required skills. For "Why Am I Wet", the recommendation is 50 in Negotiation.

And, finally, you get an additional bonus for the weapon attack of your equipped weapon (first equipped weapon if you use Double Sword).

All of these compare against a set difficulty for each quest.




So, to boost your chances, you want a higher level unit, and you want them to have the best equipment they can use. Other than that, the only way to boost things is to have a higher Clan Skill. If you want the exact formula, I can go look them up for you, and you can calculate everything.

[Kumo]

Wow, that's a lot of help actually! I'll have to try that out and see if it works. I believe I have the lvl 50 in negotiation, so there must be one other thing I need in order to push it over into the 'jumping' tier.

Is there a more in depth guide (free) on the internet I can find outside of gamefaqs? I'd love the link if anybody has it. Thanks again.

[Skyblade]

No, I'm afraid Gamefaqs has the best guide on the system I've seen.

The Mechanics Guide by TFergusson has a section on unit competence that has the exact equations, and the difficulty for each dispatch quest can be found in his Quest Guide.

[Kumo]

I'm having quite the hard time of completing this mission, and EVERYTHING hinges on it . . . so I guess I'll be reading up on the mechanics and the other link later. Thank you very much. I hope it helps me to complete the game.

By the way, while we are on FF Tactics talk, in order to unlock the bonus stuff in FF TA2: Grimoire of the Rift, do I need to have the GBA game mastered? Or just have the game beat?

[qwertysaur]

Just have the game beaten to get the bonus.

[Skyblade]

The bonus is only getting a Clan Privelege when you first start a new game. I really wish it was a bit more...

You get the Libra Privelege, so that you don't have to do the Clan Trial for it.

[Kumo]

That kinda sucks. I wish it was more too. Oh well, guess I can pack up FFTA for the GBA for a while then and just work more on the DS game. Thanks for all the help.

[squigels69]

I've looked online and asked at other forums, but to no avail. I'm trying to master this game and I'm currently sitting at 289 missions complete. The level I'm kinda stuck on is the "Why am I wet?" Level that requires a Red Mage. I have a level 34 and a level 31 red mage, but they only have the "walking" (50/50 chance) instead of the "jumping (90% chance) of passing the mission. I've tried a few times just taking the mission and passing it, but after 3-4 tries, I want to try and get the red mage up to jumping level so I don't have to keep killing 15 enemies over and over again.

Are there any tips of getting your characters up to those jumping levels for the later (lvl 7+) missions? Like do I have master jobs to get them stronger, or just level them up to higher levels? Please give me some tips!

Alright, I have played this game SO much I have probably logged 1000 hours between 4 different save files. If you are stuck at 289 missions, then you should check to see if you have done a mission called 'my mission.' It requires that you have a Eldena's Cup and Vermillion. Now, if you haven't done it yet, chances are you have progressed through the story line past it and now you can't get it again. One of my 2 saved files on my FFTA is stuck at 299, I went past that mission at some point when I didn't have the required items, and I can't get it again.

So if you are stuck at 289 and you don't have that mission, you might have to start over again.

My first time through the game, I got stuck at 291. My second time, I got all 300. I was playing a new save file, and accidentally erased my 300 mission one, and then I got stuck at 299. Now I have another one that is only like 100 missions in, but I have gotten most of my characters to level 50.

[Skyblade]

I've looked online and asked at other forums, but to no avail. I'm trying to master this game and I'm currently sitting at 289 missions complete. The level I'm kinda stuck on is the "Why am I wet?" Level that requires a Red Mage. I have a level 34 and a level 31 red mage, but they only have the "walking" (50/50 chance) instead of the "jumping (90% chance) of passing the mission. I've tried a few times just taking the mission and passing it, but after 3-4 tries, I want to try and get the red mage up to jumping level so I don't have to keep killing 15 enemies over and over again.

Are there any tips of getting your characters up to those jumping levels for the later (lvl 7+) missions? Like do I have master jobs to get them stronger, or just level them up to higher levels? Please give me some tips!

Alright, I have played this game SO much I have probably logged 1000 hours between 4 different save files. If you are stuck at 289 missions, then you should check to see if you have done a mission called 'my mission.' It requires that you have a Eldena's Cup and Vermillion. Now, if you haven't done it yet, chances are you have progressed through the story line past it and now you can't get it again. One of my 2 saved files on my FFTA is stuck at 299, I went past that mission at some point when I didn't have the required items, and I can't get it again.

So if you are stuck at 289 and you don't have that mission, you might have to start over again.

My first time through the game, I got stuck at 291. My second time, I got all 300. I was playing a new save file, and accidentally erased my 300 mission one, and then I got stuck at 299. Now I have another one that is only like 100 missions in, but I have gotten most of my characters to level 50.

This discussion is actually over FFTA2, not FFTA.

Also, in the original FFTA, "My Mission" is a Reserve Mission, one of 4 total in the game. The other three Reserve Missions are the ones giving the Edalgusto, Vermillion, and Gold Vessel, and you will only get 1 of those three. "My Mission" requires the two items you do NOT get from your other Reserve Missions, and, thus, cannot be completed without trading or cheating.

However, Reserve Missions are not counted in the list of 300 and are not needed to access the final mission chain.

[squigels69]

Incorrect. The one time I got to 299, I went around for hours looking for more missions, and that was the only mission I hadn't done yet. Because I had missed whatever mission gives the Eldagusto, I couldn't do it. When I restarted the game, I made sure I did all the side missions that pop up between each storyline mission, before advancing, and I got both the items required for that mission. Once I did that one, I advanced and got all 300, unlocking the final quest chain where you get cid.

I wasn't aware that there were 4 different reserve missions, but I have played that game a hell of a lot.

And the thread is talking about FFTA, not number 2. At least that is how his post reads.

[Skyblade]

Incorrect. The one time I got to 299, I went around for hours looking for more missions, and that was the only mission I hadn't done yet. Because I had missed whatever mission gives the Eldagusto, I couldn't do it. When I restarted the game, I made sure I did all the side missions that pop up between each storyline mission, before advancing, and I got both the items required for that mission. Once I did that one, I advanced and got all 300, unlocking the final quest chain where you get cid.

I wasn't aware that there were 4 different reserve missions, but I have played that game a hell of a lot.

And the thread is talking about FFTA, not number 2. At least that is how his post reads.

001. Herb Picking
002. Thesis Hunt
003. The Cheetahs
004. Desert Peril
005. Twisted Flow
006. Antilaws
007. Diamond Rain
008. Hot Awakening
009. Magic Wood
010. Emerald Keep
011. Pale Company
012. Jagd Hunt
013. The Bounty
014. Golden Clock
015. Scouring Time
016. The Big Find
017. Desert Patrol
018. Quiet Sands
019. Materite Now!
020. Present Day
021. Hidden Vein
022. To Ambervale
023. Over The Hill
024. Royal Valley
025. Wanted! (Black Mage Dolce)
026. Wanted! (Gabbana Brothers)
027. Wanted! (Diaghilev Godeye)
028. Wanted! (Swampking Kanan)
029. Wanted! (Killer Rayne)
030. Wanted! (Dark Duke Lodion)
031. Ruby Red
032. Tower Ruins
033. Battle In Aisen
034. Magewyrm
035. Salika Keep
036. Twin Swords
037. Village Hunt
038. Fire! Fire!
039. The Wanderer
040. Battle Tourney
041. Mage Tourney
042. Swimming Meet
043. Clan League
044. Snow In Lutia
045. Frosty Mage
046. Prof In Trouble
047. Hot Recipe
048. S.O.S.
049. A Lost Ring
050. Staring Eyes
051. Desert Rose
052. Friend Trouble
053. Flesh & Bones
054. For A Song
055. White Flowers
056. New Antilaw
057. Prison Break
058. Royal Ruins
059. Sketchy Thief
060. Showdown!
061. Hit Again
062. Oasis Frogs
063. Missing Prof
064. Den of Evil
065. Exploration
066. A Dragon's Aid
067. Missing Meow
068. Fowl Thief
069. Free Sprohm!
070. Raven's Oath
071. Nubswood Base
072. Lutia Mop-up
073. Borzoi Fallling
074. Cadoan Watch
075. Free Cadoan!
076. Fire Sigil
077. Free Baguba!
078. Water Sigil
079. Wind Sigil
080. Earth Sigil
081. The Redwings
082. Free Muscadet!
083. ForeignFiend (snake)
084. ForeignFiend (turtle)
085. ForeignFiend (plant)
086. Last Stand
087. Free Bernevia!
088. The Worldwyrm
089. Moogle Bride
090. Clan Law
091. Challengers?
092. Cursed Bride
093. Flan Breakout!
094. Sorry, Friend
095. Carrot!
096. Shadow Clan
097. The Dark Blade
098. The Hero Blade
099. The Fey Blade
100. Fiend Run
101. Clan Roundup
102. Wyrms Awaken
103. Mythril Rush
104. Stolen Scoop
105. Smuggle Bust
106. Resistance
107. Old Friends
108. Poachers
109. Snow Fairy
110. Revenge
111. Retrieve Mail!
112. A Challenge
113. Watching You
114. Golden Gil
115. Dueling Sub
116. Gulug Ghost
117. Water City
118. Mirage Tower
119. A Barren Land
120. Cadoan Meet
121. Sprohm Meet
122. Run For Fun
123. Hungry Ghost
124. Pirates Ahoy
125. Castle Sit-In
126. Wine Delivery
127. Broken Tunes
128. Falcon Flown
129. Danger Pass
130. Mist Stars
131. Adaman Alloy
132. Mysidia Alloy
133. Crusite Alloy
134. Faceless Dolls
135. Faithful Fairy
136. For The Lady
137. Seven Nights
138. Shady Deals
139. Earthy Colors
140. Lost Heirloom
141. Young Love
142. Ghosts of War
143. The Last Day
144. The Bell Tolls
145. Goblin Town
146. Secret Books
147. Words of Love
148. You, Immortal
149. Clocktower
150. An Education
151. Morning Woes
152. Down to Earth
153. To Meden
154. Neighbor!
155. Honor Lost
156. Inspiration
157. Coo's Break
158. The Match
159. The Deep Sea
160. A Worthy Eye
161. Lost in Mist
162. Darn Kids
163. Stage Fright
164. Diary Dilemma
165. Hundred-Eye
166. Runaway Boy
167. Mad Alchemist
168. Caravan Guard
169. Lifework
170. Cheap Laughs
171. T.L.C.
172. Frozen Spring
173. No Scents
174. On The Waves
175. Spirited Boy
176. Powder Worries
177. The Blue Bolt
178. Sweet Talk
179. Scarface
180. Mirage Town
181. Soldier's Wish
182. Dry Spell
183. Swap Meet
184. Adaman Order
185. Magic Mysidia
186. Conundrum
187. Lucky Night
188. Tutor Search
189. Why Am I Wet? (the mission that the thread was originally about)
190. Run With Us
191. Lucky Charm
192. Alchemist Boy
193. Thorny Dreams
194. Free Cyril!
195. Ship Needed
196. Mind Ceffyl
197. Body Ceffyl
198. The Spiritstone
199. Girl In Love
200. Chocobo Help!
201. The Skypole
202. Ruins Survey
203. Dig Dig Dig
204. Seeking Silver
205. Materite
206. The Wormhole
207. Metal Hunt
208. Math Is Hard
209. The Witness
210. Life Or Death
211. Karlos's Day
212. To Father
213. Oh Milese
214. Skinning Time
215. Wild River
216. Magic Cloth
217. Cotton Guard
218. Help Dad
219. Rubber or Real
220. Into The Wood
221. Jerky Days
222. New Fields
223. Strange Fires
224. Better Living
225. Malboro Hunt
226. Chocobo Work
227. Party Night
228. Mama's Taste
229. The Well Maze
230. She's Gone
231. Magic Vellum
232. Novel Ascent
233. Shiver
234. Bread Woes
235. Book Mess
236. One More Tail
237. Relax Time!
238. Foma Jungle
239. For A Flower
240. Giza Plains
241. Lutia Pass
242. The Nubswood
243. Eluut Sands
244. Ulei River
245. Aisenfield
246. Roda Volcano
247. Travel Aid
248. The Salikawood
249. Nargai Cave
250. Kudik Peaks
251. Jeraw Sands
252. Uladon Bog
253. Gotor Sands
254. Delia Dunes
255. Bugbusters
256. Tubola Cave
257. Deti Plains
258. Siena Gorge
259. Jagd Ahli
260. Jagd Helje
261. Jagd Dorsa
262. Ambervale
263. Ozmonfield
264. Swords in Cyril
265. Newbie Hall
266. Voodoo Doll
267. Come On Out
268. Food For Truth
269. Alba Cave
270. The Performer
271. One More Time
272. Spring Tree
273. Who Am I?
274. Reaper Rumors
275. Dog Days
276. Good Bread
277. Sword Needed
278. El Ritmo
279. Her Big Move
280. Don't Look!
281. Janitor Duty
282. Unlucky Star
283. Corral Care
284. Beastly Gun
285. Blade & Turtle
286. Valuable Fake
287. Weaver's War
288. Fabled Sword
289. Refurbishing
290. Stone Secret
291. Sword Stuff
292. A Stormy Night
293. Minstrel Song
294. Gun Crazy.
295. Black Hat
296. Hat For A Girl
297. Armor & Turtle
298. Dark Armor
299. Fashion World
300. Fashion Hoopla

There you go, the 300 quests from FFTA clan report, and that are kept track of in your Clan Status.

Shining Lake (Gives Gold Vessel)
Sauce Recipe (Gives Eldagusto)
Hero of Yore (Gives Vermillion)
My Mission (Requires Gold Vessel and Eldagusto)
My Mission (Requires Gold Vessel and Vermillion)
My Mission (Requires Eldagusto and Vermillion)
Jade Dream (Unlocked after "My Mission" is completed)
Shining Lake (Slightly better rewards than original version)
Sauce Recipe (Slightly better rewards than original version)
Hero of Yore (Slightly better rewards than original version)

These are the 10 total Reserve Missions. There are 4 different possible combinations of these missions you can get:

A. You can get the first Shining Lake, the third My Mission, and Jade Dream.
B. You can get the first Sauce Recipe, the second My Mission, and Jade Dream.
C. You can get the first Hero of Yore, the first My Mission, and Jade Dream.
D. You can get the second Shining Lake, the second Sauce Recipe, and the second Hero of Yore.

That's it. If you get situation "A", "B", or "C", completing all the Reserve Missions is impossible without trading or cheating, however, you will not have to complete the reserve missions to complete all 300 to unlock the judge quest, as none of the Reserve Missions are counted toward that 300 mission total. If you don't believe me yet, compare the two lists above. There is no overlap. Nor are the Reserve Missions pre-requisites for any of the 300. The Reserve Missions are completely separate, just like the mission "Mortal Snow", where you get Ritz, which is also not on the Clan Report or counted among the 300.

Yeah, I was wrong about this being about FFTA2 (confused it with another thread), but do not challenge my knowledge of FFTA.