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    I think the animators must have been Godzilla fans. Certainly the don't mess with Mother Nature theme is similar. Although to it's credit, Shin-Ra has a much better track record than JSDF ever did.

    Random observation: you can get the sword Apocalyse from the Ancient Forest. Things sure are getting pretty apocalyptic by this point in the game.

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    Oh and technically you only need a black chocobo to got there.

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    If you want to get technical, don't you only need a green?

    The Weapons were summoned in response to Meteor. I always thought that they just went a little crazy because they couldn't really do anything about Meteor. Only two Weapons actually attacked population centers, and one of those places (Mideel) didn't even have a Reactor.

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    nope, I tried with a green and it didn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    Only two Weapons actually attacked population centers, and one of those places (Mideel) didn't even have a Reactor.
    Three - Diamond attacked Midgar, Sapphire attacked Junon and Ultimate attacked Mideel.

    I think Ultimate WEAPON attacking Mideel is a simple mistake. The threat to the Planet is Sephiroth in the Northern Crater, the WEAPONs know this. Cloud fell into the Lifestream in the Norther Crater and surfaced in Mideel. As we know he has Jenova cells within him. At the same time Mideel is suffering from some tectonic activity as the Lifestream breaks the surface. It's possible the WEAPONs sensed the presence of Jenova cells (Cloud) and the impending damage to the Planet (Lifestream erupting) and confused it with Sephiroth, resulting in the attack. When Ultimate got there and realised the mistake and that his target wasn't the right one, he leaves.

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    Oh wow, I mixed up Diamond and Sapphire. It has been way too long since I've played FF7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    The Weapons were summoned in response to Meteor. I always thought that they just went a little crazy because they couldn't really do anything about Meteor. Only two Weapons actually attacked population centers, and one of those places (Mideel) didn't even have a Reactor.
    Well that's not exactly true. I thought the weapons were created to wipe all threats from the planet - the main threat being Rufus and Shin-Ra.
    A rough quote from Rufus when Weapon is attacking Junon is "Do you think we can handle all these attacks?" suggesting that the weapons have been attacking Shin-Ra Citys and outposts quite a lot, thus fulfilling their duty.

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    The Weapons were created as a last-ditch resort to fight major threats to the Planet in general, yes. And the Weapons may have started attacking other threats once they were released, but it was clearly Sephiroth gaining control of the Black Materia and summoning Meteor which invoked their summoning. It even happened in the same FMV!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    The Weapons were created as a last-ditch resort to fight major threats to the Planet in general, yes. And the Weapons may have started attacking other threats once they were released, but it was clearly Sephiroth gaining control of the Black Materia and summoning Meteor which invoked their summoning. It even happened in the same FMV!
    That's true, it just seemed that some people thought the weapons only attacked three times.

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    I had the same impression as Skyblade about how and why the Weapons are about and acting in the way that they are, namely that they were to eliminate threats but as Sephiroth was unreachable, they just went on a general rampage and went after Mako reactors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    If you want to get technical, don't you only need a green? :p

    The Weapons were summoned in response to Meteor. I always thought that they just went a little crazy because they couldn't really do anything about Meteor. Only two Weapons actually attacked population centers, and one of those places (Mideel) didn't even have a Reactor.
    In my head, I imagined that it went to Mideel because of the access point to the Lifestream and its abundance of Mako energy, but that was just a conclusion I jumped to.
    Not my words Carol, the words of Top Gear magazine.

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    Actually, I'm wondering about the attack on Mideel. Ultimate Weapon, after all, did not destroy Mideel, the Lifestream did. Was Ultimate the cause of the Lifestream welling up that way, or did it arrive there in response to that event? In which case, could that upwelling have been a potential threat to the planet, due to having some negative effect on the Lifestream?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    Actually, I'm wondering about the attack on Mideel. Ultimate Weapon, after all, did not destroy Mideel, the Lifestream did. Was Ultimate the cause of the Lifestream welling up that way, or did it arrive there in response to that event? In which case, could that upwelling have been a potential threat to the planet, due to having some negative effect on the Lifestream?
    I reckon Ultima Weapon responded to it as a potential threat to the planet & our heroes were just in the wrong place at the wrong time!

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