Good/Bad English Voices

[sdm42393]

As far as characters sounding bored and monotone I think Cosmos takes the cake. And finding out her VA also voices Ash Ketchum makes me laugh.

[Zeromus_X]

I also laugh when I hear Kefka's VA cause he played Allen in Xenosaga and also plays Kakashi in Naruto, not to mention he's the narrator for most of those Japanese obstacle course shows.

Kefka's VA also voices Cliff from Star Ocean 3 and Teddie from Persona 4, which is fairly entertaining to think about.

[Crimson]

As far as characters sounding bored and monotone I think Cosmos takes the cake. And finding out her VA also voices Ash Ketchum makes me laugh. :D

This potentially means that WoL = Pikachu.


I just blew all your Cloud = Pikachu theories away.

[NeoCracker]

I really don't see Kuja being too out of character really. Maybe its just me. He always seemed flamboyant and intolerable of criticism. I still don't see how he's stupid.

He doesn't like Criticism no, but in IX he was usually able to keep his cool. Like all the time he spent with Barne. Regardless of how much he hated her, he never showed it while in the pressence of the Bermucian people.

Now, he gets wound up whenever somethings said about him. And as for him being stupid in Dissidia?

"Oh, you're just his 'friend'. Zidane would NEVER chase after you. Why, that is totally not something he would EVER do."

Again, it's either that, or he was lying cause he couldn't beat squall, so he made up an excuse. That jis just something else out of character for Kuja. Look at him in FF IX. He knew he coudln't beat Garland on his own, so he tryed to ensare the EIdalions. When those plans failed, he took in the souls of the Iifa tree and obtained Trance. He didn't make up an excuse, he came up with a way.

[McLovin']

Kuja's voice isn't how I expected it to be. I imagined him to have a more suave, nonchalant attitude. But I think it's more his dialogue than the voice actor.

[Wolf Kanno]

I really don't see Kuja being too out of character really. Maybe its just me. He always seemed flamboyant and intolerable of criticism. I still don't see how he's stupid.

He doesn't like Criticism no, but in IX he was usually able to keep his cool. Like all the time he spent with Barne. Regardless of how much he hated her, he never showed it while in the pressence of the Bermucian people.

Now, he gets wound up whenever somethings said about him. And as for him being stupid in Dissidia?

"Oh, you're just his 'friend'. Zidane would NEVER chase after you. Why, that is totally not something he would EVER do."

Again, it's either that, or he was lying cause he couldn't beat squall, so he made up an excuse. That jis just something else out of character for Kuja. Look at him in FF IX. He knew he coudln't beat Garland on his own, so he tryed to ensare the EIdalions. When those plans failed, he took in the souls of the Iifa tree and obtained Trance. He didn't make up an excuse, he came up with a way.

Yeah, but once you see the whole of the Odyssey chapters, you learn that Ultimacia and Garland are spurring him on and are aware of his Genome heritage which is something Kuja really despises and gets flustered about. Yes he's making excuses but I don't feel its terribly out of character, considering the part where Kuja was "aloof and cool" about everything was during the part of the game where he's manipulating behind the shadows and not being center stage. Besides, he has been making off color statement about all the villains. I can see Kuja caring about Zidane cause unlike other characters, his relationship and jealousy of Zidane is a core part of his story. I think Ex-Death is more out of character than Kuja.

Kuja also did throw a a bit of hissy fit when Garland retook the Invincible and used it to destroy Alexander. I also remember him getting really annoyed about Zidane being able to use Trance yet he couldn't.

(SPOILER)Another thing to remember is that most of the villains are a little off. I mean Ex-Death suddenly gives a damn about Bartz and is also obsessed with crushing him? Golbez and Cecil's relationship is sorta reversed, Golbez was the one trying to get Cecil's acknowledgment in IV and instead its Cecil following Golbez like a sheep for some odd reason. Even Ultimecia is half respectable as a villain? WTF?

Most of the villains seem off.. but I also feel most are close to character as well. We're trying to establish emotional relationships without the 40+ hour backstory building it up. Liberties are going to be taken. Besides, its not like Dissidia is canonical

[NeoCracker]

Yeah, but once you see the whole of the Odyssey chapters, you learn that Ultimacia and Garland are spurring him on and are aware of his Genome heritage which is something Kuja really despises and gets flustered about. Yes he's making excuses but I don't feel its terribly out of character, considering the part where Kuja was "aloof and cool" about everything was during the part of the game where he's manipulating behind the shadows and not being center stage. Besides, he has been making off color statement about all the villains. I can see Kuja caring about Zidane cause unlike other characters, his relationship and jealousy of Zidane is a core part of his story. I think Ex-Death is more out of character than Kuja.

Kuja also did throw a a bit of hissy fit when Garland retook the Invincible and used it to destroy Alexander. I also remember him getting really annoyed about Zidane being able to use Trance yet he couldn't.

(SPOILER)Another thing to remember is that most of the villains are a little off. I mean Ex-Death suddenly gives a damn about Bartz and is also obsessed with crushing him? Golbez and Cecil's relationship is sorta reversed, Golbez was the one trying to get Cecil's acknowledgment in IV and instead its Cecil following Golbez like a sheep for some odd reason. Even Ultimecia is half respectable as a villain? WTF?

Most of the villains seem off.. but I also feel most are close to character as well. We're trying to establish emotional relationships without the 40+ hour backstory building it up. Liberties are going to be taken. Besides, its not like Dissidia is canonical

Kuja was pissed Garland retook the invincible yes. But he didn't throw a hissy fit, spurring him to do stupid things. He instead formulated a new plan, which involved chasing down Eiko and attempting to draw her Eidolons. True, he was impatient and started loosing his cool, but at the same time he was still level headed enough to not just rush into action recklessly.

Really, the only time he does anything like that is after obtaining trance, and Garland made him realize that no matter what he did, he was going to fade away from this world soon, so all he strived to accomplish and prove would be for naught. It took something that colossal to be able to spur him to do something stupid and break him.

Not commenting on Zidane.

ANd if you want to get more into the oddity of his current character, he is capable of Trance in Dissidia. With that power, he's not really showing a reason to be jealous of Zidane anymore, but gameplay mechanics asside, he doesn't come across as Jealous in this game anyway. Simply obsessed, kind of like the blond dude with the Invisible Sword thingy from Black Cat, obsessed with Train.

At no point in FF IX did it seem so easy to spurr him to do things simply by provoking him. Even after he takes center stage and you leave Mist Continent, he stilll keeps his cool attitude, and is still controlling and manipulating others. Like the Black Mages.

And again, I too see Kuja caring about Zidane, but he's like a damned lost puppy at this point. He was always jealous and wanted to surpasss Zidane, not some obsessed fan girl, for lack of a better word.

And as for Ex-Death.
(SPOILER)And as for Ex-death, when did he give a damn about Bartz? When he let Bartz go during his escape? That wasn't even for Bartz's benefit, it was to lure Zidane into a trap, not out of care of Bartz.

Also, the Ex-Death we see in this game seems more like Neo-Exdeath, but I digress.

And on the note of Golbez. (SPOILER)We really don't know a whole lot about Golbez's Character in all honesty. The Majority of FF IV he's under Zeromus's control. Those brief moments he is a nice guy are really the only moments you get to know him. They had to basically build up most of his current pursonality from scratch.

[Wolf Kanno]

(SPOILER)In Bartz story we have two different sets of villains trying to get rid of him and both decide mention Ex-Death would be more than happy to do it.

As for Kuja getting flustered, lets face it, he's against nine other badass villains and all their physics actually work the same so no more planet destroying Ultima for Kuja. He can't scheme to get better. As for the obsession with Zidane, course he would still have it. Zidane was his replacement, we're talking about the guy who decided the world can't go on without him. I can see him still wanting to prove he's better.

(SPOILER)Golbez's plot is kinda out of place cause even though we're focusing on a small part of his character from the game, as I mentioned, the roles are kinda reversed. Cecil never gave the whole "Dear brother" spiel in IV he spent the majority of the aftermath of that plot twist deciding whether he could forgive him or not. Granted things are totally different in this story world but since there is nothing to gain than victory why worry about the villains trying to come up with some magical McGuffin so they can fight over it and rule/destroy world. I mean, most of Kuja's motivation is gone now except for beating Zidane and proving he''s better than the other heroes who look down on him.

I still don't find Kuja terribly out of character since he's quite close to his end game self.

[Skyblade]

Kuja still has the jealousy that he feels towards Zidane for living. Even in Dissidia, Kuja is a shell, a fragment. Doomed to a life that will be short and unfulfilled. Zidane was not only built to replace him, but Zidane would last while Kuja would fade.

Exdeath did not care for Bartz or have an obsession with destroying him specifically. Exdeath is referred to as being the most "appropriate" one to send after Bartz. Why is unknown, but there is no indication that Exdeath would enjoy it. He is one of the "destroyers", the villains intent merely on eradicating everything, like Cloud of Darkness.

Also, could we either get a new thread or change the name of this one? I was avoiding this one because I don't really care to argue about voice actors, but if I knew all the character discussions were going to be in here, I wouldn't have.

[McLovin']

The Kuja cast in the wonderful FF9 Actorman fandub on youtube is exactly how I would imagine Kuja. This one sounds childlike

[ReloadPsi]

I am helplessly in love with Kefka's voice and anybody who dislikes it is clearly just jealous of the voice actor's skill in delivering his lines.

Also the actor must definitely have watched the Janicon cosplay video. He can't not have seen it; they're so alike.

Incidentally I'm shocked that Squall is British.

[Masamunemaster]

I am helplessly in love with Kefka's voice and anybody who dislikes it is clearly just jealous of the voice actor's skill in delivering his lines.

Also the actor must definitely have watched the Janicon cosplay video. He can't not have seen it; they're so alike.

haha my favorite line from him yet: "One of us is not serious." lol

[Wolf Kanno]

Just start a new thread Skyblade and I'll move the appropriate posts to it.

I also really like Kefka's VA. Overall, I'm really happy with all the villains though I am a bit disappointed they removed Gabranth's cool "Vader Helm" sound to his voice. I couldn't put my hand on what bugged me when I first heard him speak and that was it. The heroes VAs, not so much, but most of them are growing on me finally. I'd say the awkward part of the dialogue comes from the stiff character models. They sorta just stare off into space and remain expressionless in most of the non-action dialogue scenes. It gets creepy, especially in Cloud's cause it doesn't seem like he moves his neck and his monotone voice adds to the eeriness. Its even more awkward when you get someone lively like Bartz or Zidane. So far its my only technical complaint with the title.

I just wish I didn't have school and work going on at the same time cause I'm not able to put in the time I really want into this game.

[Masamunemaster]

ok I got bored and tired so I decided to look up the voices again(and I noticed on my 3rd playthrough that they did use FF:ACs VAs sorry)

WoL plays Izuru kira on Bleach(sounded familiar)
ok I knew firions did but I didnt think it was John Yong Bosch(for those who dont know he was adam in the first few seasons of the power rangers lol)
wow whats with the Bleach actors cause here is renjis as cecil...
yet again...squall is Ichimaru...

and Kefka was Yazoo???

[Marshall Banana]

I'll reiterate what Jeremy said to me before: the Joker in The Dark Knight is a good example of who Kefka should sound and act like.

Not a screechy nerd.

Kefka sounds just like that *&^*&$%$*&^#*$^$# cosplayer.