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    I don't get people classifying basic genres and dividing them up into categories that really have no clear or differentiating definition to them. This is especially true in metal where people will argue for hours on end whether a band is stoner/doom/desert metal or simply acid/stoner/doom metal. It's ridiculous. And the whole post- or -core thing is insufferable.

    So anyways, do any of you get picky with what to classify your music as? If so, what are the criteria, or are you like me and don't give a crap and just let it fall under a basic category such as "rock", "rap" etc etc?

    Yeah I know there's a thread similar to this but it's pretty old.
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    Genres and sub-genres are useful, but do get too crazy and aren't all that important. Too many people think they can make a genre by adding -core to the end.

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    i like to write songs about apples but i don't know if there's a specific sub genre mine can be specified into specifically

    anyone have any ideas?

    i don't see a problem with classifications. for example i don't care about specific types of fungi, but can differentiate between mammalia and protozoa.

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    I don't give a crap. Sometimes I may discuss the subgenre of something if I'm trying to explain the type of music a band is to someone who understands those genres, but that's about the only use I can think for them. And since I don't understand them at all, even that isn't usually of much use to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not At All Reno View Post
    i like to write songs about apples but i don't know if there's a specific sub genre mine can be specified into specifically

    anyone have any ideas?
    Call it applecore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    I don't give a crap. Sometimes I may discuss the subgenre of something if I'm trying to explain the type of music a band is to someone who understands those genres, but that's about the only use I can think for them. And since I don't understand them at all, even that isn't usually of much use to me.
    Yeah, for example I don't really see the difference between "alternative" "post rock" and "prog rock".

    I'm a total musicfag yet the whole subgenre thing always eluded me.
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    alt is like matthew good

    post rock has very little important lyrics, its mostly the instruments

    prog rock is like the above but the feeling is more spacey and ambient

    IM TOTALLY CORRECT
    im making it up

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    Apparently everyone who listens to music is an authority on it. Although one could argue that it's all relative and on the other side of the coin it can be seen as altogether pointless. I think labels can act as a stigma of sorts too, some people might stay away from a certain genre if a band they don't like is in it, yet they're might be a dozen bands that they'd like but don't bother with because they didn't bother looking past the label.


    Also some people tend to generalize a bit too quickly, especially with the whole emo and hipster labels
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    I used to care about labels and stuff, but then I just decided that I like what sounds appealing to me.

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    I try to be very vague when describing what I listen to, because I'm afraid of using the wrong name and sounding dumb I:

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    I have my own genres.

    Great
    Good
    Okay
    No thanks

    And of course the occasional Beautiful, but a song classified into this genre is most likely classified into the Great genre as well. That's where it gets a little complicated.


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    Metal is horrid about that kind of thing, as you said. Very few classes of Metal actually deserve to have a subgenre of any kind.

    The only one that comes to mind is Power Metal, which makes heavy use of orchastra Type equipment, a good example being Kamelot's Ghost Opera using organs and violins, and the over all feeling of the music differs a lot from normal Metal.

    THere are other examples of legitamate sub-genres, though overall I think it's just people being elitist.

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    Yeah, I feel it boils down to elitism as well. Though I would consider Viking Metal to be its own genre even though it's basically power and/or black metal, but with an obvious Norse mythology theme. But that's arguable since the main difference is within the lyrics and not the musical style itself, though again it all boils down to what you personally define a genre as.

    And Kamelot's a pretty descent band btw
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    The funniest thing about Metal subgenres is that Metal is a subgenre in tiself. =/



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    Kamelot is actually one of my favorite bands.

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    Power metal..

    and Death Metal..

    are completely different..

    and Death Metal AND power metal...

    are completely different from Industrial metal.



    That is a great example of why we have sub genres.

    We have subgenre's to better pinpoint the TYPE of music within a certain genre. It's like when someone says "do you like metal" and they say yes, they prolly aren't saying yes to liking all metal, so then the person says "What kind of metal"?

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