World of Warcraft: Cataclysm speculation thread. HUGE SPOILERS.

[McLovin']

The long awaited Saurfang Cleave vs the Frostmourne strike...

There is just no comparison!

[Madame Adequate]

I cried aloud with mirth and merriment well if garrosh does take over I don't think saurfang would let him outright kill carine and attack the alliance. So I think something is going to happen to him :/

Maybe Saurfang goes with Thrall?

[Bunny]

Or that could be one of the quests chains. A large chain like the one that leads to an attack on Undercity for the retaking or something like that. Saurfang leading a group of horde into the city to head off Garrosh before he can do any more damage.

It'd be a pretty fun quest.

[G3ORGE]

So they basically dropped a nuke on the world?

[Jowy]

Probably one of the moons. There'll be a Caverns of Time raid with a three day lockout timer with the Infinite Dragonflight attempting to prevent it from crashing into Kalimdor. One person in the raid will randomly get turned into a boomerang shooting naga to make it a vehicle encounter.

[Madame Adequate]

The Blue Child is quite conspicuously absent.

[Freya]

I dunno, I think they still want it to go back to more of orcs vs humans kinda thing. If Saurfang comes in and takes over Garroshs spot you wont have a reason to be all OMG PVP!

My theory is Garrosh gets someone to kill carine and then blames it on alliance so he can rally the horde. I doubt the tauren would stand by while the orcs murder their leader. They'd just split off from the horde and probably join the night elfs if they had to (moonglade). SO YEAH I think he's gonna rally the horde :P

[Madame Adequate]

Wow, they are not kidding around. Old World looks pretty darned different, from the trailer. Goblins fgreatestj.

Also check this convo:

Huxley says:
If Gilneas was phased, so Worgen players actually played through the civil war there, starting 'earlier' in the timeline than other new characters and catching up once they complete quests.
Pike says:
=o
That would be awesome
...
hey guess what they just said?
Regarding the worgen starting zone?
xDDDDDD
Huxley says:
... are you serious? xD
Pike says:
Well if "the starting zone will have you playing through how the plague happened" counts, then yes xD

I called it several seconds before it happened.

[Bunny]

Pretty excited about this so far. Worgen Hunter inc

Goblin and Worgen racials are amazing so far.

Also,

The Horde finally conquered Southshore.

Finally.

Sunken City of Vashj'ir will be an underwater zone and was the home city of Lady Vashj before the original sundering, this is a gateway to the Abyssal Maw. Going through the Abyssal Maw will take you to the Elemental Plane of Water, even if the zone will be underwater you will be walking on the sea floor here, new underwater mounts will be available and should have the same speed as normal flying mounts.

Some of this is just awesome.

The Deadmines and Shadowfang Keep will be back in a brand new level 85 heroic version.


OHGOD

[Madame Adequate]

Heroic Deadmines is pretty much the greatest news in WoW since WoW was released, yeah.

[Markus. D]

Worrrrrrgen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[McLovin']

The Alliance rejoices as hundreds of 12 year olds flock to become Worgens.

I'm not sure I like them changing old Azeroth forever. I mean the play through should be something like Old Azeroth -> Outland -> Northrend -> New Azeroth

Cause someone who doesn't want Cataclysm and maybe wants to remain in the old world will not be able to do this because even if you don't have the expansion this change will affect even the original WoW box.

Not too fond of the Ragnoras/Deathing/Elementals story. Too out there for my liking. The trailer made it seem this expansion will intervene in the fight against the Lich King so perhaps we won't kill Arthas just yet.

[Bunny]

I don't think they ever intended for Arthas to ever be killed, maybe just fought. There is still 3.3 as far as I know.

Goblins
Rocket Jump - Activate your rocket belt to jump up to 20 yards, every 2 min
Rocket Barrage - Fire your belt rockets at an enemy within 30 yards, every 2 min. (Shared cooldown with Rocket Jump)
Time is money - Cash in on a 1% increase to attack and casting speed.
Best Deals Anywhere - Best possible gold discount, regardless of reputation.
Pack Hobgoblin - Calls in your personal servent, allowing you bank access every 30 min.
Better Living Through Chemistry - Alchemy skill +15, Your potions give more health / mana
Goblins can be all classes except Paladin or Druids

Worgens
Darkflight - Activate your true form, increasing movement speed by 70% for 6 sec, every 3 min.
Viciousness - Increase damage by 1%.
Abberation - Reduced duration on Curses and Diseases used against you by 15%.
Flayer - Skinning skill +15, you skin creature fast, and you don't even need a knife.
Worgens can be all classes except Paladins or Shamans

Worgen Form
The Worgen Form is cosmetic only
out of combat you can pick between Human or Worgen.
In combat you will be a worgen.

Not sure I like the hunter mana-to-energy change.

[Jowy]

[2. Trade][Belfadin] wtf why does alli get worgen that is so gay im rerolling
[2. Trade][Belfadin] seriously just dumb little green s i f u blizz
[2. Trade][Belphiroth] petition blizz and dont buy the xpac
[2. Trade][Belphiroth] worgen dk ftw

I am so excited.

I'll be sad to take some of my alts out back and shoot them though, time to start hoarding stuff for my new undead hunter. 8-)

[Bunny]

I'm going to have to find another character to transfer to Draka. smurf Undead hunter, I'm going Worgen. Maybe my druid or something.