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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    Enders game. Oh boy, here we go.
    Whole post contains spoilies from the movie

    As a Movie
    It wasn't awful. It felt really rushed. Also, it felt like they just randomly pushed relationships together for no reason. They used that kid from Hannah Montanna as Bonzo, which I felt was one of the best castings possible. Ender's greatest battle and turning point is a fight with a midget. Which he cheats at. Seriously, the guy comes at him one on one and Ender makes himself slippery and gets away, then kills him. The biggest disappointment of the fight though was that Ender didn't just put his hand on Bonzos head and hold him away like that, with Bonzos arms flailing.
    Also, why is it that by the end of the movie every black character is either saluting Ender or babying him, and none of the white guys do? I'm completely serious, at the end of the movie, Dap salutes Ender, who is now an Admiral, and then Colonel Graff has Ender sedated for no reason, and then makes Dap (played by a black guy) carry Ender around.

    Ender's love(?) interest offers to give him private lessons out of the blue the first time she meets him.

    Effects:
    The special effects in the space battles and in the game were terrific. If there was a video game that looked that good out today, none of us would ever stop playing it. The Battle school design is pretty great. The caves that the Formics carved on the planet at the end look like a movie set from the days of bad science fiction. Santa vs the Martians anyone?

    Music:
    The movie literally never stops playing dramatic music. As if it knows that it has been reduced to key points of conflict in the movie and literally nothing else. It gets kind of annoying after a while.

    Acting:
    Petra go home. Whoever played Petra, please, you need a few more years of lessons, I felt like I was watching the Last Airbender movie again.
    No one else except for Ender and Graff get enough time to warrant discussion, but I will say that I felt like the kid from Hannah Montanna was trying far to hard to get just the right amount of mean guy on his face.
    Ender.... makes us feel nothing whatsoever. His emotional scenes don't make us feel anything since the only time in the movie he does anything other than disobey orders or kill teenagers is the first time he goes into the battle room.
    Harrison Ford was Harrison Ford.


    Pacing:
    lol, next category.

    Overall: I'll give it a 6/10. Pretty animation isn't enough to redeem the terrible pacing and the bad acting.





    As a Movie Based on a book
    Oh god. This was the best adaptation. Maybe literally.
    Instead of a proper review, here is a list of wtf were they thinking.

    Why the hell is everyone 14?
    Why the hell is Anderson a woman now?
    Why the hell is Bonzo a midget, he's supposed to tower over Ender.
    Why the hell is there a relationship between Ender and Petra, Petra is supposed to be dating Dink at this point.
    Why the hell is the small asteroid now an Earth sized planet.
    Why the hell is Ender promoted from launchy to soldier to commander to captain after one victory each
    Why the bloody rotting infested hell is Bean not a midget. Seriously, guys, when Bean shows up in the book, he is 6, 3 feet tall, and a giant asshole.
    Why the bloody hell didn't they make this a two parter, Part one is from the time Ender enlists till he becomes commander, movie two could be from commander to the end of the book. Then the actor could age like he does in the book.
    Why did they announce at the beginning of the movie on the news that the humans are invading, in the book this was top secret information not revealed till the very end.

    adaptation points:
    0/10
    Bugger off.
    response
    aaaah you have essentially pointed out everything that I found wrong with it. And I'm surprised you gave it such a high score! Well done articulating the complaints I had to make. I have a few in particular I'd like to add or elaborate on. I didn't feel like doing this originally because I felt it would take too much effort, but it's in my head now xD

    - The fact that Anderson "goes soft" and tries to tell Graff that he's pushing Ender too hard and breaks down is appalling. Anderson is supposed to be such a great secondary character in the book, he's used as a means to show what a monster Graff really is, that he's a wolf in sheep's clothing with these kids. But this female Anderson! Why did they make her execute such a compassionate protest? Because she's a woman? That was all I could think about, and I found it pretty sexist. It was possible for her to behave the same way Anderson is written in the book, only as a woman. No, instead they had to make her compassionate toward the launchies and Ender. Why? It had to have been because she was a woman. The entire point of this school is to show no compassion and to not ever let Ender believe that help will come or that the pressure will ever let up. She violated all of that with her outburst.

    - Which brings me to my next point. The fight with Bonzo. Supposed to be one of Ender's defining moments in Battle School, and a trademark of Ender that he finishes his enemies and he does it for good. a) Bonzo fell and broke his neck seeminly by accident and b) Ender rushed to him, sobbing over him and apologizing. Why the smurf would they make him do that? It takes away everything about Ender and his character.

    - Petra is the best and I hate her. Hated her. There was no reason whatsoever for as much involvement in the story as she had. Can we also take a moment to piece our smurfing brains back together from the fact that Petra laid the final shot with the Little Doctor on the buggers? It wasn't Ender. Petra was the one who did it. Why. smurfing why. I'd like to know.

    - Hated Dap. Next to Petra, he was the second best. So awful.

    - "buggers" is not used once and it freak me out. The term "formic" is referenced only in those paragraphs between chapters in which the IF are speaking, if I remember. No one actually calls them formics.

    - Mazer Rackham. I so badly wanted to like Ben Kingsley, but I couldn't do it. Didn't like him one bit.

    - Seconding the atrocious pacing. Additionally, the dialogue was not believable or natural.

    - A two-part would probably be best, agreed.

    - I thought the Freeplay was atrocious and the fact that they put the Hive Queen on smurfing Eros is a travesty. Honestly. How did any of that work? Answer: It doesn't. The whole point of Freeplay is that the buggers used it to analyze Ender and then to create a situation in which he was familiar with in order to communicate with them, and that they would do it far away from all of this on another unknown planet for Ender to find as an adult. How would they have been able to do that on Eros when it was wiped clean by marines decades before? There is no possibility that exists in which this was a logical move to make in the plot. Ridiculous.

    I understand that the book is extremely internalized and many of it are writings about what's happening to Ender and what Ender is thinking. I understand it can be hard to write a script and a dialogue for situations like that. But come on. Come on.
    I agree with all of this.
    Additionally, they were only called formics in the Ender's shadow series, which is now no longer possible to make a movie of.
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    Very nice, ending could have been a little better though.

    7.5/10


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    Enders game. Oh boy, here we go.
    Whole post contains spoilies from the movie

    As a Movie
    It wasn't awful. It felt really rushed. Also, it felt like they just randomly pushed relationships together for no reason. They used that kid from Hannah Montanna as Bonzo, which I felt was one of the best castings possible. Ender's greatest battle and turning point is a fight with a midget. Which he cheats at. Seriously, the guy comes at him one on one and Ender makes himself slippery and gets away, then kills him. The biggest disappointment of the fight though was that Ender didn't just put his hand on Bonzos head and hold him away like that, with Bonzos arms flailing.
    Also, why is it that by the end of the movie every black character is either saluting Ender or babying him, and none of the white guys do? I'm completely serious, at the end of the movie, Dap salutes Ender, who is now an Admiral, and then Colonel Graff has Ender sedated for no reason, and then makes Dap (played by a black guy) carry Ender around.

    Ender's love(?) interest offers to give him private lessons out of the blue the first time she meets him.

    Effects:
    The special effects in the space battles and in the game were terrific. If there was a video game that looked that good out today, none of us would ever stop playing it. The Battle school design is pretty great. The caves that the Formics carved on the planet at the end look like a movie set from the days of bad science fiction. Santa vs the Martians anyone?

    Music:
    The movie literally never stops playing dramatic music. As if it knows that it has been reduced to key points of conflict in the movie and literally nothing else. It gets kind of annoying after a while.

    Acting:
    Petra go home. Whoever played Petra, please, you need a few more years of lessons, I felt like I was watching the Last Airbender movie again.
    No one else except for Ender and Graff get enough time to warrant discussion, but I will say that I felt like the kid from Hannah Montanna was trying far to hard to get just the right amount of mean guy on his face.
    Ender.... makes us feel nothing whatsoever. His emotional scenes don't make us feel anything since the only time in the movie he does anything other than disobey orders or kill teenagers is the first time he goes into the battle room.
    Harrison Ford was Harrison Ford.


    Pacing:
    lol, next category.

    Overall: I'll give it a 6/10. Pretty animation isn't enough to redeem the terrible pacing and the bad acting.





    As a Movie Based on a book
    Oh god. This was the best adaptation. Maybe literally.
    Instead of a proper review, here is a list of wtf were they thinking.

    Why the hell is everyone 14?
    Why the hell is Anderson a woman now?
    Why the hell is Bonzo a midget, he's supposed to tower over Ender.
    Why the hell is there a relationship between Ender and Petra, Petra is supposed to be dating Dink at this point.
    Why the hell is the small asteroid now an Earth sized planet.
    Why the hell is Ender promoted from launchy to soldier to commander to captain after one victory each
    Why the bloody rotting infested hell is Bean not a midget. Seriously, guys, when Bean shows up in the book, he is 6, 3 feet tall, and a giant asshole.
    Why the bloody hell didn't they make this a two parter, Part one is from the time Ender enlists till he becomes commander, movie two could be from commander to the end of the book. Then the actor could age like he does in the book.
    Why did they announce at the beginning of the movie on the news that the humans are invading, in the book this was top secret information not revealed till the very end.

    adaptation points:
    0/10
    Bugger off.
    response
    aaaah you have essentially pointed out everything that I found wrong with it. And I'm surprised you gave it such a high score! Well done articulating the complaints I had to make. I have a few in particular I'd like to add or elaborate on. I didn't feel like doing this originally because I felt it would take too much effort, but it's in my head now xD

    - The fact that Anderson "goes soft" and tries to tell Graff that he's pushing Ender too hard and breaks down is appalling. Anderson is supposed to be such a great secondary character in the book, he's used as a means to show what a monster Graff really is, that he's a wolf in sheep's clothing with these kids. But this female Anderson! Why did they make her execute such a compassionate protest? Because she's a woman? That was all I could think about, and I found it pretty sexist. It was possible for her to behave the same way Anderson is written in the book, only as a woman. No, instead they had to make her compassionate toward the launchies and Ender. Why? It had to have been because she was a woman. The entire point of this school is to show no compassion and to not ever let Ender believe that help will come or that the pressure will ever let up. She violated all of that with her outburst.

    - Which brings me to my next point. The fight with Bonzo. Supposed to be one of Ender's defining moments in Battle School, and a trademark of Ender that he finishes his enemies and he does it for good. a) Bonzo fell and broke his neck seeminly by accident and b) Ender rushed to him, sobbing over him and apologizing. Why the smurf would they make him do that? It takes away everything about Ender and his character.

    - Petra is the best and I hate her. Hated her. There was no reason whatsoever for as much involvement in the story as she had. Can we also take a moment to piece our smurfing brains back together from the fact that Petra laid the final shot with the Little Doctor on the buggers? It wasn't Ender. Petra was the one who did it. Why. smurfing why. I'd like to know.

    - Hated Dap. Next to Petra, he was the second best. So awful.

    - "buggers" is not used once and it freak me out. The term "formic" is referenced only in those paragraphs between chapters in which the IF are speaking, if I remember. No one actually calls them formics.

    - Mazer Rackham. I so badly wanted to like Ben Kingsley, but I couldn't do it. Didn't like him one bit.

    - Seconding the atrocious pacing. Additionally, the dialogue was not believable or natural.

    - A two-part would probably be best, agreed.

    - I thought the Freeplay was atrocious and the fact that they put the Hive Queen on smurfing Eros is a travesty. Honestly. How did any of that work? Answer: It doesn't. The whole point of Freeplay is that the buggers used it to analyze Ender and then to create a situation in which he was familiar with in order to communicate with them, and that they would do it far away from all of this on another unknown planet for Ender to find as an adult. How would they have been able to do that on Eros when it was wiped clean by marines decades before? There is no possibility that exists in which this was a logical move to make in the plot. Ridiculous.

    I understand that the book is extremely internalized and many of it are writings about what's happening to Ender and what Ender is thinking. I understand it can be hard to write a script and a dialogue for situations like that. But come on. Come on.
    I agree with all of this.
    Additionally, they were only called formics in the Ender's shadow series, which is now no longer possible to make a movie of.
    (SPOILER)
    I know we disagree on opinions about that story and I wouldn't have gone to see it even if they somehow made it into a film, but there was no reason in hell to put Bean in his launchy group and it violates yet another key point Ender's time in Battle School because it takes away the option to now pit Bean in his army. Ender subconsciously copying the methods of the teachers and then deeply struggling with that and feeling shameful about it is what helps him to turn his methods around, thus creating the most powerful army Battle School has ever seen. Including Bean in his launchy group took all of those possibilities away.


    Additionally, I would have liked to see more of the impact that the two vs. one army. ALSO I JUST REALIZED I don't think I saw Dink Meeker anywhere! Now I'm really mad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Shorty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie View Post
    Enders game. Oh boy, here we go.
    Whole post contains spoilies from the movie

    As a Movie
    It wasn't awful. It felt really rushed. Also, it felt like they just randomly pushed relationships together for no reason. They used that kid from Hannah Montanna as Bonzo, which I felt was one of the best castings possible. Ender's greatest battle and turning point is a fight with a midget. Which he cheats at. Seriously, the guy comes at him one on one and Ender makes himself slippery and gets away, then kills him. The biggest disappointment of the fight though was that Ender didn't just put his hand on Bonzos head and hold him away like that, with Bonzos arms flailing.
    Also, why is it that by the end of the movie every black character is either saluting Ender or babying him, and none of the white guys do? I'm completely serious, at the end of the movie, Dap salutes Ender, who is now an Admiral, and then Colonel Graff has Ender sedated for no reason, and then makes Dap (played by a black guy) carry Ender around.

    Ender's love(?) interest offers to give him private lessons out of the blue the first time she meets him.

    Effects:
    The special effects in the space battles and in the game were terrific. If there was a video game that looked that good out today, none of us would ever stop playing it. The Battle school design is pretty great. The caves that the Formics carved on the planet at the end look like a movie set from the days of bad science fiction. Santa vs the Martians anyone?

    Music:
    The movie literally never stops playing dramatic music. As if it knows that it has been reduced to key points of conflict in the movie and literally nothing else. It gets kind of annoying after a while.

    Acting:
    Petra go home. Whoever played Petra, please, you need a few more years of lessons, I felt like I was watching the Last Airbender movie again.
    No one else except for Ender and Graff get enough time to warrant discussion, but I will say that I felt like the kid from Hannah Montanna was trying far to hard to get just the right amount of mean guy on his face.
    Ender.... makes us feel nothing whatsoever. His emotional scenes don't make us feel anything since the only time in the movie he does anything other than disobey orders or kill teenagers is the first time he goes into the battle room.
    Harrison Ford was Harrison Ford.


    Pacing:
    lol, next category.

    Overall: I'll give it a 6/10. Pretty animation isn't enough to redeem the terrible pacing and the bad acting.





    As a Movie Based on a book
    Oh god. This was the best adaptation. Maybe literally.
    Instead of a proper review, here is a list of wtf were they thinking.

    Why the hell is everyone 14?
    Why the hell is Anderson a woman now?
    Why the hell is Bonzo a midget, he's supposed to tower over Ender.
    Why the hell is there a relationship between Ender and Petra, Petra is supposed to be dating Dink at this point.
    Why the hell is the small asteroid now an Earth sized planet.
    Why the hell is Ender promoted from launchy to soldier to commander to captain after one victory each
    Why the bloody rotting infested hell is Bean not a midget. Seriously, guys, when Bean shows up in the book, he is 6, 3 feet tall, and a giant asshole.
    Why the bloody hell didn't they make this a two parter, Part one is from the time Ender enlists till he becomes commander, movie two could be from commander to the end of the book. Then the actor could age like he does in the book.
    Why did they announce at the beginning of the movie on the news that the humans are invading, in the book this was top secret information not revealed till the very end.

    adaptation points:
    0/10
    Bugger off.
    response
    aaaah you have essentially pointed out everything that I found wrong with it. And I'm surprised you gave it such a high score! Well done articulating the complaints I had to make. I have a few in particular I'd like to add or elaborate on. I didn't feel like doing this originally because I felt it would take too much effort, but it's in my head now xD

    - The fact that Anderson "goes soft" and tries to tell Graff that he's pushing Ender too hard and breaks down is appalling. Anderson is supposed to be such a great secondary character in the book, he's used as a means to show what a monster Graff really is, that he's a wolf in sheep's clothing with these kids. But this female Anderson! Why did they make her execute such a compassionate protest? Because she's a woman? That was all I could think about, and I found it pretty sexist. It was possible for her to behave the same way Anderson is written in the book, only as a woman. No, instead they had to make her compassionate toward the launchies and Ender. Why? It had to have been because she was a woman. The entire point of this school is to show no compassion and to not ever let Ender believe that help will come or that the pressure will ever let up. She violated all of that with her outburst.

    - Which brings me to my next point. The fight with Bonzo. Supposed to be one of Ender's defining moments in Battle School, and a trademark of Ender that he finishes his enemies and he does it for good. a) Bonzo fell and broke his neck seeminly by accident and b) Ender rushed to him, sobbing over him and apologizing. Why the smurf would they make him do that? It takes away everything about Ender and his character.

    - Petra is the best and I hate her. Hated her. There was no reason whatsoever for as much involvement in the story as she had. Can we also take a moment to piece our smurfing brains back together from the fact that Petra laid the final shot with the Little Doctor on the buggers? It wasn't Ender. Petra was the one who did it. Why. smurfing why. I'd like to know.

    - Hated Dap. Next to Petra, he was the second best. So awful.

    - "buggers" is not used once and it freak me out. The term "formic" is referenced only in those paragraphs between chapters in which the IF are speaking, if I remember. No one actually calls them formics.

    - Mazer Rackham. I so badly wanted to like Ben Kingsley, but I couldn't do it. Didn't like him one bit.

    - Seconding the atrocious pacing. Additionally, the dialogue was not believable or natural.

    - A two-part would probably be best, agreed.

    - I thought the Freeplay was atrocious and the fact that they put the Hive Queen on smurfing Eros is a travesty. Honestly. How did any of that work? Answer: It doesn't. The whole point of Freeplay is that the buggers used it to analyze Ender and then to create a situation in which he was familiar with in order to communicate with them, and that they would do it far away from all of this on another unknown planet for Ender to find as an adult. How would they have been able to do that on Eros when it was wiped clean by marines decades before? There is no possibility that exists in which this was a logical move to make in the plot. Ridiculous.

    I understand that the book is extremely internalized and many of it are writings about what's happening to Ender and what Ender is thinking. I understand it can be hard to write a script and a dialogue for situations like that. But come on. Come on.
    I agree with all of this.
    Additionally, they were only called formics in the Ender's shadow series, which is now no longer possible to make a movie of.
    (SPOILER)
    I know we disagree on opinions about that story and I wouldn't have gone to see it even if they somehow made it into a film, but there was no reason in hell to put Bean in his launchy group and it violates yet another key point Ender's time in Battle School because it takes away the option to now pit Bean in his army. Ender subconsciously copying the methods of the teachers and then deeply struggling with that and feeling shameful about it is what helps him to turn his methods around, thus creating the most powerful army Battle School has ever seen. Including Bean in his launchy group took all of those possibilities away.


    Additionally, I would have liked to see more of the impact that the two vs. one army. ALSO I JUST REALIZED I don't think I saw Dink Meeker anywhere! Now I'm really mad.
    He was the random black guy petra talks to the first time Ender meets her. I thought dink was Belgian or something in the books.
    (SPOILER)Yes, they threw away another huge part of Ender's developement by putting Bean in his launchy group, almost as big important as Ender beating down Bonzo in the original book.
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    I don't think I noticed him through my blinding rage.

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    I don't think I noticed him through my blinding rage.
    I feel your pain. In the book, Dink is just as important if not more important than Petra, and in the end, they replaced him and Hot Soup with Bernard. Ugh.
    Edit: I just looked it up, in the book, Dink is dutch.

    I kept wanting to yell at the screen the entire movie.

    Why couldn't Peter Jackson have done this instead of Gavin Hood?

    Then again, I don't think I need any more Radagast the Browns.
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    Pacific Rim was finally in the Red Box so I got to watch it. It was smurfing awesome. I got the main theme stuck in my head.

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    Anvil! The Story of Anvil

    This documentary is incredible. It tells the story of (you'll never guess) Anvil, a metal group that served as an inspiration for a lot of highly successful Rock bands (Guns n Roses, Jethro Tull, Metallica, etc) but never were able to "hit it big" themselves.

    The film chronicles the lead singer/guitarist and the drummer, who remain best friends at age 51 and have not given up on the dream of becoming rock stars. I almost cried during it, to be honest. How they have the will to continue pursuing their dreams in the face of countless setbacks and disappointments is beyond me. Even if you don't like the type of music this is an incredible story of the triumph of the human spirit.

    9/10

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    Olympus has Fallen - Great start filled with action and suspense, but somewhere in the middle it started to lose my interest and fall apart. 6/10

    Now You See Me - I liked the tricks and learning how they were done, but wasn't crazy about the rest. I that the ending was a joke, and felt like more of a cheat than a magic trick. Maybe I was just tired and I should re-watch. 6.5/10

    We're The Millers - Just another crude adult film that is sorta like The Hangover in its humor. If you like that sort of thing then I'd suggest it...and I do. I was laughing my ass off a few times. 8/10

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    The Wolverine

    I liked it more than the first one and the cliffhanger was good but the movie left some questions. But that's normal, it is not supposed to be serious.

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    Thor 2: I thought it was miles better than the first one and it was good to see more of Asgard this time around. Loki pretty much got all the best lines in the movie, which isn't surprising with how popular the character became since Avengers. Only setback is the villain, despite being played by the 9th freaking Doctor, is forgettable and they could have done more with him.

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    The Odd Life of Timothy Green

    I rolled my eyes at this when it first started. Normally, I like Jennifer Garner but in the beginning she seemed so to overact pretty badly, and I wasn't so fond of the beginning in general. But Timothy reminded me so much of my little sister who has asperger's and I began to find myself enjoying the movie because of him. And then Jennifer Garner stopped being weird and I liked it a lot more.

    Felt like a movie for kids, but I was still pretty touched by the ending. 6/10.

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    World War Z

    It was... OK. Just a watchable zombie romp with a decent cast. I still found it hard to fathom how Brad Pitt's character remained alive throughout the entire movie. He literally should have died fifteen times. No-one is that lucky. No-one. I did like the way they managed to deal with the contagion in the end. As zombie flicks go though, there are better ones out there.

    7/10

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    Stitches

    It's about a clown (British comedian Ross Noble) who gets killed at a kids part and comes back for revenge several years later, it's a proper homage to classic slasher movies and some of Noble's one-liners are hilarious.

    Solid 8/10 for me.

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    Tangled 9/10

    this movie is genius!
    i love the characters so much!
    im in love with this movie

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