Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
Its a good way of looking at it but I still feel VII worked better as a stand alone title and that the Compilation has altered several of the characters. Its still technically a retcon since the Compilation (and even the Ultimania) were all written several years after the original and only had the input of a few of the original writers.

I feel VII ends on a good note for most of the cast and I feel AC turns around and retcons all this just so we can have some extra drama and perhaps squeeze out a few more spin offs and mke more money. There are a lot of things wrong with the Compilation titles from a writing/story perspective but I won't go into it here as this is specifically about Cloud.

NeoCracker: Do you even pay attention to his opening and closing dialogue? Its mostly, "I don't want to do this", "Not proud of that one", and "I'm not going to sleep well tonight". I just find it amusing he falls back on his default dilemma of having to wait for someone to prod at him before he takes action, waiting almost til the worst case scenario. Though I admit he works well as a supporting character in some of the plots (mostly Terra's since they are very similar) but I feel a difference here is that Cloud does have a stated rivalry with Sephiroth and it would have worked better if his goal was to search and defeat Sephiroth which would parallel the first disc of VII as opposed to what we got.(SPOILER) It really would have worked better considering the actual plot of Dissidia and thus the main theme of the game actually parallels to some degree the Reunion of VII.
Okay, his in-battle dialogue was horrid. Very, very, horrid. I won't deny that one.

And a simple 'search and defeat sephiroth' goal was far to simple, since Cloud obviously wanted a deeper reason. I admit he wasn't a particularly great character in Dissidia, (Or in his original game for that matter, better then later incarnations though) but he was decent.

I do agree he worked better as a supporting character though.

Quote Originally Posted by Jaffer View Post

I dunno what to tell you, having a cheerful lead that spends his time banging his FF cup girlfriend wasn't going to work for most stories. It would've been fun but it wasn't going to make for a particularly immersing story.
I don't think anyones denying that to be true, but the overall point is AC really doesn't have a place in the FF VII universe on the grounds it makes no sense to do when showed along side the game.

That asside, Rufus in AC is the epitome of win. 'A good son would have known' is by far the best singl line of dialogue in either the game or movie.