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    I was playing Dissidia last night and I`ve just found out that the weapons Ultimecia use have the exact same names as Rinoa`s weapons. Although, both of these weapons differ in terms of styles and colours.

    Am I surprised about this discovery? Nope.

    Rinoa has light wings behind her back (good) and Ultimecia has dark wings behind her back (bad).
    Rinoa`s weapon is lighter (it has white feathers on it) = Ultimecia`s weapon is darker (bad). Not to mention that Rinoa`s personality is so lovely and Ultimecia`s personality is quite the opposite. Therefore, Rinoa is 100% good and Ultimecia is 100% bad. Right? Let`s move onto the next paragraph.

    This discovery may be eligible to hold the criteria to question the uncertainty of the R=U theory. For example, there`s no logical reason for Ultimecia to possess such weapons that have the EXACT same names as Rinoa`s weapons.

    Perhaps, this is what SquareEnix intended to happen (which it was meant to be a joke) but thier action is still not enough to discredit the whole thing. That is until they make official comments. AFAIK, the Dissidia game doesn`t seem to have anything that may suggest "Oh yeah, we`ll vacuum certain players from the series and put them in Dissidia and we also will make them look illogical more than thier original creations."

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    Maybe it's like WoW's Ashbringer weapon, it changes with the user's will. Rinoa turns evil, her weapons do to. R does in fact = U.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFIX Choco Boy View Post
    Maybe it's like WoW's Ashbringer weapon
    I mis-read that as "Asperger". Now I feel like a bad person

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    Oh god, not this again.

    I wish SE would just make a statement to either confirm this or put it to rest.


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    What types of weapon does Ultimecia use? Rinoa uses a Blaster Edge. Ultimecia appears unarmed. In any case, it does seem like it is more than coincidence that they share the same weapon names, but is it only the naming scheme that is similar or is it the weapon themselves?
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    Your that same dude who posted this same thing on Gamefaqs arent you?



    Guess what? Tidus has one of Wakka's weapons in Dissidia, does that mean that Tidus = Wakka!?




    Give it up.

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    Did it ever occur to anyone who thinks R=U that Squall wouldn't let that happen? That's kinda what VIII is all about.
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    I wouldn't read too much into it. Looking at the weapon list for Dissidia, it follows the rest of the title in terms of fanservice. All of Tidus' weapons seem to actually be named after Wakka's weapons as someone else pointed out, and despite obviously using a sword in battle animations, all of Terra's weapons are from the Flail class of weapons (a class of weapons she does actually use in VI). Kefka uses a... Harp... wherever that came from which is not even a weapon option from VI but it is a major weapon type used in the series.

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    From what I can tell, Ultimecia does not even wield a weapon in combat. If she equips a different type of weapon that happens to share a naming scheme with the Blaster Edge, then that is likely for the sake of drawing a parallel to Squall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roogle View Post
    From what I can tell, Ultimecia does not even wield a weapon in combat. If she equips a different type of weapon that happens to share a naming scheme with the Blaster Edge, then that is likely for the sake of drawing a parallel to Squall.
    That's pretty much it. She doesn't use Rinoa's weapons but the Bow weapons are named after Rinoa's different weapons. Weapons affect stats but they don't necessarily change their play style. Ultimecia uses magic exclusively in-game (Her super attack is actually a play on Squall's Lionheart Limit Break ) but their are several weapons in the game set up like the classic weapons from II and job class based games. Each character is restricted to a certain type of equipment but the names of most of the equipment are plays on popular weapons in the series or special connections to some characters. For instance, Sephiroth's ulitmate weapon is called One Winged Angel while Kefka's ultimate weapon is called Dancing Mad.

    Generally, specialty weapons for characters are drawn from the their characters games, and usually, the villains have some more obscure stuff since we never know much about their equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    I wouldn't read too much into it. Looking at the weapon list for Dissidia, it follows the rest of the title in terms of fanservice. All of Tidus' weapons seem to actually be named after Wakka's weapons as someone else pointed out, and despite obviously using a sword in battle animations, all of Terra's weapons are from the Flail class of weapons (a class of weapons she does actually use in VI). Kefka uses a... Harp... wherever that came from which is not even a weapon option from VI but it is a major weapon type used in the series.

    Hmmm...I would read much into this since it is just another example of the craftiness that has gone into presenting Ultimecia as Rinoa and Rinoa as Ultimecia. The probability of it being a coincidence is lower than the probability of it being done on purpose.

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    P.S. The main reason I am defending the R=U theory, asides from the fact that there is evidence to support it throughout the game and that it makes perfect sense, is because I have word from a friend who knows one of the programmer's on the Final Fantasy VIII project and he has stated that from what he has heard in passing from the creator and from those who have assisted in the creation process, Rinoa was and is meant to be Ultimecia. It is obviously not official so I can't prove it.

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    Gief remake with better structured story

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    Hahaha way to fuel the flame, Squenix *hi5*

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    Considering its been almost ten years without an official explanation from Squenix, I would say this is more of a coincidence or Squenix humoring the fanbase. We each take our own interpretation from it.

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    *facepalm* Who cares?! Just play the damn game!!!
    Oh gods, why? ಥ_ಥ


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