Paranormal

[Timekeeper]

Fine don't pick up on/mention my allusion to star wars

[stalpho slayer]

If something happened that I couldn't explain I would say just that: something happened that I can't explain. Just because I can't (at the moment) explain something does not rationally justify leaping to conclusions which themselves have no rational basis. There have been plenty of occurrences of sounds I couldn't identify or strange lights or things turning up somewhere when I could've sworn I left them someplace else. I just shrug and move on. It's far more likely I'm remembering wrong or my eyes or ears are tricking me than any supernatural explanation.

Hell, even assuming some supernatural explanation, ghosts are no more likely in that instance than fairies or leprechauns or demons or witches or invisible unicorns. Somehow ghosts seem more likely to people, but it's only because of the number of people who believe in ghosts; there is still no substantive evidence for their existence, any more so than thousands of other baseless supernatural beings.

even saying ur just seeing thing and hearing things. still how could you compare ghosts to fairies, leprechauns, demons, witches, invisible unicorns. the reason a ghost is more likely is because
they're not a magical horned horse or a midget leading you to his pot o' gold or a tiny flying pixie that looks human. demons started with peoples belief in god and hell. the thought of a human spirit is comforting to many people. thats why you see so many people saying they saw a ghost.

i honestly have to ask what would you say if you saw someone that you thought was dead a person whose funeral you went to? are you going to say your hallucinating or are you going to try and prove what you saw? i chose to believe in the hope that there is an afterlife. i can't go on living every day saying that you only have your life then thats it.

i belive not out of fear but sadness because what if im wrong? that means we all die for nothing. that means life is pointless. what good would it do to live and die for nothing. that would make medicine pointless.

im not saying you have to believe but im asking you to consider this if we all die for nothing than whats the point of living our lives if were just going to die?

[black orb]

>>> I bet most of the people who dont believe in ghosts are still scared of them .
Oh yeah, and please invite your friends and play with the Ouija Board, but dont blame if some of you get possessed or something like that..

[krissy]

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im not saying you have to believe but im asking you to consider this if we all die for nothing than whats the point of living our lives if were just going to die?

life has meaning in and of itself. would you start looting and killing and raping and just hedonize it up in general if you didn't believe in a higher dimension of existence? no, you'd probably try to leave your mark on the history of humanity or enjoy the time you get.

if there's a point for you and your existence has a point for people that care about you, then approaching it all as pointless seems a little misguided.

additionally, assuming you believe in a creator, the creator would no doubt intend that this life be respected of its own merit, and not only as a test for some other plane of existence. living this life like it is a test for another seems like it disrespects this one.

it's like
not eating a cookie because once you're done eating it it's gone forever.

i'll just eat the cookie and bake more when im hungry.

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[NorthernChaosGod]

i honestly have to ask what would you say if you saw someone that you thought was dead a person whose funeral you went to? are you going to say your hallucinating or are you going to try and prove what you saw? i chose to believe in the hope that there is an afterlife. i can't go on living every day saying that you only have your life then thats it.

i belive not out of fear but sadness because what if im wrong? that means we all die for nothing. that means life is pointless. what good would it do to live and die for nothing. that would make medicine pointless.

im not saying you have to believe but im asking you to consider this if we all die for nothing than whats the point of living our lives if were just going to die?

Who says it's for nothing? Why does there have to be an afterlife for life to have meaning? The point of life is to live on through our actions, our legacy and our offspring. Why is that not enough for you? I'm perfectly content living on purely as a memory in the minds of my loved ones.

If you jump to any conclusion based on life being finite, it would be that it is more precious than you realize and that you should make the most with the little time that you have.

[Raistlin]

even saying ur just seeing thing and hearing things. still how could you compare ghosts to fairies, leprechauns, demons, witches, invisible unicorns. the reason a ghost is more likely is because
they're not a magical horned horse or a midget leading you to his pot o' gold or a tiny flying pixie that looks human. demons started with peoples belief in god and hell. the thought of a human spirit is comforting to many people. thats why you see so many people saying they saw a ghost.

Argument ad populum: just because more people believe something (or want to believe it) does not make any more likely to be true. Ghosts and demons have no more actual substantive evidence for them than any of the mystical things I mentioned.

i honestly have to ask what would you say if you saw someone that you thought was dead a person whose funeral you went to? are you going to say your hallucinating or are you going to try and prove what you saw?

Probably hallucinating/imagining things. I know I'm capable of that, but I don't know that it is even possible for ghosts to exist. And just because I may not know the answer does not mean that I'm logically justified in making up any irrational nonsense to fill the gaps. "I don't know" is a much more valid response than ghosts.

i chose to believe in the hope that there is an afterlife. i can't go on living every day saying that you only have your life then thats it.

Just because you want something to be true does not make it any more likely. Reality does not respond to your whims; it merely exists.

im not saying you have to believe but im asking you to consider this if we all die for nothing than whats the point of living our lives if were just going to die?

krissy responded very well to this point. My life has meaning because it's mine - because I can feel, and I choose to take enjoyment out of my own existence, regardless of what may (or more likely, may not) happen after my death.

[rubah]

>>> I bet most of the people who dont believe in ghosts are still scared of them .

not really; they don't exist.

[Loony BoB]

I believe there are paranormal things out there, however I don't believe every story I'm told and am extremely sceptical of that sort of things. I've never believed a ghost story.

[stalpho slayer]

even saying ur just seeing thing and hearing things. still how could you compare ghosts to fairies, leprechauns, demons, witches, invisible unicorns. the reason a ghost is more likely is because
they're not a magical horned horse or a midget leading you to his pot o' gold or a tiny flying pixie that looks human. demons started with peoples belief in god and hell. the thought of a human spirit is comforting to many people. thats why you see so many people saying they saw a ghost.

Argument ad populum: just because more people believe something (or want to believe it) does not make any more likely to be true. Ghosts and demons have no more actual substantive evidence for them than any of the mystical things I mentioned.

i honestly have to ask what would you say if you saw someone that you thought was dead a person whose funeral you went to? are you going to say your hallucinating or are you going to try and prove what you saw?

Probably hallucinating/imagining things. I know I'm capable of that, but I don't know that it is even possible for ghosts to exist. And just because I may not know the answer does not mean that I'm logically justified in making up any irrational nonsense to fill the gaps. "I don't know" is a much more valid response than ghosts.

i chose to believe in the hope that there is an afterlife. i can't go on living every day saying that you only have your life then thats it.

Just because you want something to be true does not make it any more likely. Reality does not respond to your whims; it merely exists.

im not saying you have to believe but im asking you to consider this if we all die for nothing than whats the point of living our lives if were just going to die?

krissy responded very well to this point. My life has meaning because it's mine - because I can feel, and I choose to take enjoyment out of my own existence, regardless of what may (or more likely, may not) happen after my death.

i realize wanting and existing are to different thing and i also wish to say this
a higher power doesn't give meaning to my life it gives me reasoning that everybody gets the justice they deserve. why should good people die when there is tons of people that might deserve at least some kind of punishment. i don't go by the commandments but when people take other peoples lives and get away with it. why should good people die. and the other guy get away with it.

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im not saying you have to believe but im asking you to consider this if we all die for nothing than whats the point of living our lives if were just going to die?

thats what i mean by that
why should anyone continue to exist when the good have to die god existing for me is saying that evil people will get what they deserve

the axe murderer for instance where is the justice for those who were killed in that house where was the killers prison sentence where is his punishment?

explain that to me
and don't give me crap i know the date July' 10 1912 tech was not around which proves my case even more
8 people killed for no reason the murderer was never caught

[NorthernChaosGod]

Bad happens, why should that make life any less meaningful? Again, that should only galvanize any feelings of gratitude knowing that for any reason and at any time everything could just end.

[41-Inches-Wide]

>>> I bet most of the people who dont believe in ghosts are still scared of them.

I know that ghosts don't exist. But it doesn't hurt if take extra precaution, right?

Can ghosts get inside a forcefield? I hope not.

[Duce of Daggers]

even saying ur just seeing thing and hearing things. still how could you compare ghosts to fairies, leprechauns, demons, witches, invisible unicorns. the reason a ghost is more likely is because
they're not a magical horned horse or a midget leading you to his pot o' gold or a tiny flying pixie that looks human. demons started with peoples belief in god and hell. the thought of a human spirit is comforting to many people. thats why you see so many people saying they saw a ghost.

Argument ad populum: just because more people believe something (or want to believe it) does not make any more likely to be true. Ghosts and demons have no more actual substantive evidence for them than any of the mystical things I mentioned.

i honestly have to ask what would you say if you saw someone that you thought was dead a person whose funeral you went to? are you going to say your hallucinating or are you going to try and prove what you saw?

Probably hallucinating/imagining things. I know I'm capable of that, but I don't know that it is even possible for ghosts to exist. And just because I may not know the answer does not mean that I'm logically justified in making up any irrational nonsense to fill the gaps. "I don't know" is a much more valid response than ghosts.

i chose to believe in the hope that there is an afterlife. i can't go on living every day saying that you only have your life then thats it.

Just because you want something to be true does not make it any more likely. Reality does not respond to your whims; it merely exists.

im not saying you have to believe but im asking you to consider this if we all die for nothing than whats the point of living our lives if were just going to die?

krissy responded very well to this point. My life has meaning because it's mine - because I can feel, and I choose to take enjoyment out of my own existence, regardless of what may (or more likely, may not) happen after my death.

i realize wanting and existing are to different thing and i also wish to say this
a higher power doesn't give meaning to my life it gives me reasoning that everybody gets the justice they deserve. why should good people die when there is tons of people that might deserve at least some kind of punishment. i don't go by the commandments but when people take other peoples lives and get away with it. why should good people die. and the other guy get away with it.

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im not saying you have to believe but im asking you to consider this if we all die for nothing than whats the point of living our lives if were just going to die?

thats what i mean by that
why should anyone continue to exist when the good have to die god existing for me is saying that evil people will get what they deserve

the axe murderer for instance where is the justice for those who were killed in that house where was the killers prison sentence where is his punishment?

explain that to me
and don't give me crap i know the date July' 10 1912 tech was not around which proves my case even more
8 people killed for no reason the murderer was never caught

happens get over it. if anything that should give your life more meaning. because it didn't happen to you.

as for the paranormal i don't know if i believe or not. but its not a good idea just to go on faith. where is your proof and where is your evidence?

[black orb]

>>> I bet most of the people who dont believe in ghosts are still scared of them .

not really; they don't exist.

>>> I can still find ways to scare you..