
Originally Posted by
stalpho
even saying ur just seeing thing and hearing things. still how could you compare ghosts to fairies, leprechauns, demons, witches, invisible unicorns. the reason a ghost is more likely is because
they're not a magical horned horse or a midget leading you to his pot o' gold or a tiny flying pixie that looks human. demons started with peoples belief in god and hell. the thought of a human spirit is comforting to many people. thats why you see so many people saying they saw a ghost.

Originally Posted by
Raistlin
Argument ad populum: just because more people believe something (or want to believe it) does not make any more likely to be true. Ghosts and demons have no more actual substantive evidence for them than any of the mystical things I mentioned.

Originally Posted by
stalpho
i honestly have to ask what would you say if you saw someone that you thought was dead a person whose funeral you went to? are you going to say your hallucinating or are you going to try and prove what you saw?

Originally Posted by
Raistlin
Probably hallucinating/imagining things. I know I'm capable of that, but I don't know that it is even possible for ghosts to exist. And just because I may not know the answer does not mean that I'm logically justified in making up any irrational nonsense to fill the gaps. "I don't know" is a much more valid response than ghosts.

Originally Posted by
stalpho
i chose to believe in the hope that there is an afterlife. i can't go on living every day saying that you only have your life then thats it.

Originally Posted by
Raistlin
Just because you want something to be true does not make it any more likely. Reality does not respond to your whims; it merely exists.

Originally Posted by
stalpho
im not saying you have to believe but im asking you to consider this if we all die for nothing than whats the point of living our lives if were just going to die?

Originally Posted by
Raistlin
krissy responded very well to this point. My life has meaning because it's mine - because I can feel, and I choose to take enjoyment out of my own existence, regardless of what may (or more likely, may not) happen after my death.
i realize wanting and existing are to different thing and i also wish to say this
a higher power doesn't give meaning to my life it gives me reasoning that everybody gets the justice they deserve. why should good people die when there is tons of people that might deserve at least some kind of punishment. i don't go by the commandments but when people take other peoples lives and get away with it. why should good people die. and the other guy get away with it.
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im not saying you have to believe but im asking you to consider this if we all die for nothing than whats the point of living our lives if were just going to die?
thats what i mean by that
why should anyone continue to exist when the good have to die god existing for me is saying that evil people will get what they deserve
the axe murderer for instance where is the justice for those who were killed in that house where was the killers prison sentence where is his punishment?
explain that to me
and don't give me crap i know the date July' 10 1912 tech was not around which proves my case even more
8 people killed for no reason the murderer was never caught