How can Kingdom Hearts appeal more to mainstream Disney fans?

[PuPu]

Wtf.

Damn it, I meant to say that Sanctuary has the part where she says "My Heart's a Battleground" not Passion.

[SuperMillionaire]

>>> I thought only the Disney fans were into the KH games..

No, only Square Enix fans like KH; 9/10 Disney fans don't know anything about this franchise.

Other than language, the only other difference between Passion and Sanctuary is that Passsion has a that part where Utada says "My Heart's a Battle Ground"

There is a longer version of Passion that was released in Japan as a single, but there is no equivalent for Sanctuary. Sanctuary only makes an appearance in Kingdom Hearts II.

Actually, her most recent US album, This is the One, contains both "Simple and Clean" and "Sanctuary."

[Roogle]

Actually, her most recent US album, This is the One, contains both "Simple and Clean" and "Sanctuary."

Thank you for letting me know. I am going to listen to these tracks from This Is The One and post my impressions of the songs. It has been a long time since the release of those songs in Japan, so I am surprised that she wanted to revisit them and include them as Bonus Tracks on her album for Western audiences.

[SuperMillionaire]

Yes, it's been about five years since she released those songs in Japan...

[Roogle]

I listened to Sanctuary and Simple and Clean from This Is The One. These songs were included on the album as bonus tracks on the physical copy of the album:

11. Simple & Clean [5:03]
12. Sanctuary (Opening Version) [4:25]
13. Sanctuary (Closing Version) [5:58]

Simple & Clean and Sanctuary are at their full length on these tracks. Sanctuary (Opening Version) is the standard version of the song as seen in Kingdom Hearts II; Sanctuary (Closing Version) is a longer, solemn version of Sanctuary with a minute and a half instrumental at the end.

I was disappointed with Sanctuary mainly because of its lack of lyrics. Passion has more intense lyrics than Sanctuary, I think, and the song suffers from the syllable elongation and the lack of lyrics.

[SuperMillionaire]

The first version of "Sanctuary" is the intro to KHII, while the second is the ending to KHII.

[Roogle]

Didn't Passion -KINGDOM Orchestra Instrumental Version- play at the end of the game?

[SuperMillionaire]

No, I think that instrumental orchestra version plays are a while of inactivity when you first turn on the game. After seeing the main screen of the game, if you don't press anything, you'll get a video sequence with the orchestral version of the song.

The ending version of the song first contains vocals and piano, and once the vocals end, the rest of the instruments come into play.

[arcanedude34]

as well as Disney Channel characters Kim Possible and Jake Long (American Dragon)

Kim Possible and Jake Long (American Dragon)

Jake Long

DO NOT WANT

[SuperMillionaire]

Well, they are animated-action series, and they fight against various villains, so why not put them in the next Kingdom Hearts?

[arcanedude34]

Because American Dragon was a rather terrible show? And the titular dragon was annoying and poorly written and designed? Kim Possible I could maybe live with, but it would feel weird to have Sora hanging around in a high school dealing with "teh drama" and occasionally fighting a blue man and a green woman.

[Mercen-X]

I just went through a long complicated process of reading all these annoyingly posts choosing which ones to x-quote and respond to. But because I forgot to hit the "Remember Me" button, I had to log in again before posting... thus I lost everything that I wrote.

Anyway, I suppose my main points were as follows:

9/10 of Disney fans knowing about KH: not a bad number.

Disney changing its rules for KH Disney characters would allow them more freedom and more involvement and putting the characters into new situations would make them more interesting. I'm guessing Disney would prefer to horde this to themselves by using Kingdom Hearts as a launching point for games (better games than have been released) based on previous Disney works.

I wouldn't mind more Disney performers portraying characters or performing music. Hayden Panettiere apparently wants to be a singer and then there's Jesse McCartney.

KP and JL would be bad ideas. Playing through a world so similar to modern day reality like Manhattan and "Middleton" would not be viable in the fantasy environment KH creates and the characters themselves would not make sense outside of their own worlds. I thought the same thing when Beast joined the party at Hollow Bastion.

As for Ariel, I didn't care. If she'd been a Princess of Heart, chances are Alice would have been added to the party at Wonderland. Personally, I'd prefer not to experience that. Then again, I didn't care for Ariel as an ally either.

[SuperMillionaire]

I guess we can drop Jake Long, but I still think Kim Possible would be a great addition to KH (at least in its western editions). I've spoken to several others outside of this forum who would like to see KP in the next KH (after BBS, of course).

And perhaps there should be more sing-alongs, but only in cutscenes, and not in actual gameplay. Sora, Roxas, Kairi, and Namine can also sing; after all, Kairi and Namine's new voice actors, Alyson Stoner and Meaghan Jette Martin, as well as Roxas' voice actor, Jesse McCartney, are singers. They should make music videos for the Disney Channel too.

And I said that 9/10 Disney fans do NOT know about KH.

[blackmage_nuke]

I thought that american dragon was a reasonable show and the character designs in the first season were pretty basic but looked nice, However everyone had weird necks and the art style was horrible in season 2.

That said i dont want American dragon in KH

and if we did have Kim Possible i would want sora to drop in during a mission at some evil villains lair and not have to deal with with the highschool drama.

[Mercen-X]

Sora can also sing.
And I said that 9/10 Disney fans do NOT know about KH.

No. I like the kid. HJO is a great actor. But he's no singer, the Atlantica singalong made me nuts.

And, yes, I did indeed know exactly what you said. I was in a hurry because SOMEONE was pestering me to get off the computer. Give me a break. 9/10 of Disney fans NOT knowing 'bout Kingdom Hearts... STILL NOT a bad number.

I thought that american dragon was a reasonable show and the character designs in the first season were pretty basic but looked nice, However everyone had weird necks and the art style was horrible in season 2.

if we did have Kim Possible i would want sora to drop in during a mission at some evil villains lair and not have to deal with with the highschool drama.

I completely agree they ruined AmDra just when I was starting to watch it.

God, I could imagine Sora being sucked into a Ron scheme to devour Nacos for some silly championship or help to reassure KP after she's had a bad date. Somebody done slapped my momma!