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    You are missing the point I'm trying to make, and that is that people who play Kingdom Hearts and those that like the Disney channel personalities are very few and far between, and from the perspective of the developer, to cater to such a small subset of the players would be a suicidal decision. If I had to listen to Miley Cyrus to play Kingdom Hearts I would not be able to enjoy the game.

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    I'd be able to stand Miley Cyrus voicing some character or another. That's about as far as I'm willing to go with her involvement, and it wouldn't be the first time that Disney channel stars have gotten such roles (Christy Carlson Romano or whatever as Yuffie). It wouldn't make me happy, but it would be something I could handle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertysaur View Post
    You are missing the point I'm trying to make, and that is that people who play Kingdom Hearts and those that like the Disney channel personalities are very few and far between, and from the perspective of the developer, to cater to such a small subset of the players would be a suicidal decision. If I had to listen to Miley Cyrus to play Kingdom Hearts I would not be able to enjoy the game.
    I'm not saying alienate the main audience; rather, I would want to franchise to pulll more fans in.
    Is that your final answer?

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    It would be nice to see more people enjoying games, but you can't please everyone. A jack of all trades is a master of none.

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    This is ludicrous, but thankfully it'll never happen. So I think I'll just move along now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertysaur View Post
    It would be nice to see more people enjoying games, but you can't please everyone. A jack of all trades is a master of none.
    True, we can't please everyone, but we can still try to please more, even if it's not everyone...
    Is that your final answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch! View Post
    I'd be able to stand Miley Cyrus voicing some character or another. That's about as far as I'm willing to go with her involvement, and it wouldn't be the first time that Disney channel stars have gotten such roles (Christy Carlson Romano or whatever as Yuffie). It wouldn't make me happy, but it would be something I could handle.
    If she did a theme song for Kingdom Hearts you certainly won't find it on my iPod, but I think she could probably do a pretty good job of voicing a character. Like how I feel about Jesse McCartney and Roxas. Can't stand his music, but I do love Roxas's voice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by qwertysaur View Post
    It would be nice to see more people enjoying games, but you can't please everyone. A jack of all trades is a master of none. :p
    True, we can't please everyone, but we can still try to please more, even if it's not everyone...
    The problem is that there are about as many people who hate Miley Cyrus as there are people who like her. I'm willing to bet there are more people who would be unhappy about Miley Cyrus singing in the game than there would be people they're bringing to the franchise. It's too radical a proposition to be realistic as a means to bring in more people.

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    They why not other Disney Channel singers?
    Is that your final answer?

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    Partly because Utada Hikaru has already done the theme songs and she does a good job of it. While I am not a huge fan of Utada's latest English album, her Kingdom Hearts works have been rather enjoyable. Passion is one of my favourite songs and Sanctuary is not half-bad.

    Now if we ended up with a Disney star doing some voice acting and their character ended up doing some singing (like KHII's Atlantica) that'd be tolerable, especially since hearing Sora sing in KHII made a part of me die on the inside.


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    I guess you're right on that part, but I never said that a Disney star should sing the main theme song of the game; instead include other songs that play during gameplay cutscenes.
    Is that your final answer?

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    Why exactly do we need more musical numbers throughout Kingdom Hearts? I thought the overwhelming unpopularity (and yes, I know some people liked it, but a majority did not) of Atlantica in Kingdom Hearts II would be proof enough that the market for Disney song-and-dance numbers in the game is very small.

    It's frequently hard enough as it is to take the Kingdom Hearts plot seriously when it's trying to sober up for a moment; we don't need to compound this with the Jonas Brothers singing in the background. It would be bloody awful.

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    Well, they would have to make sure that the lyrics fit the storyline, would it not? If the lyrics don't fit the story, then the inclusion of the song would'nt make any sense now, would it?
    Is that your final answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMillionaire View Post
    Well, they would have to make sure that the lyrics fit the storyline, would it not? If the lyrics don't fit the story, then the inclusion of the song would'nt make any sense now, would it?

    Restating what Ouch! just said, why the need to even include the song at all? Nevermind the fact that you would not have an equivalent singer in the original Japanese game, you want to take the piece of the game that has the worst reception from Kingdom Hearts II and expand it further. And you want to do it using something that most of those people don't like. Remember, expanding a fanbase is one thing, alienating the existing fanbase to expand is not a good move.

    It's like the toy that toddlers play with that has different shaped blocks and holes. Try and fit the Square into the Circular hole, and you quickly find it wont fit. So don't try and force it in, and go with what wil work, and put it through the square hole

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    I didn't say an actual musical singing sequence. What I meant was background music; the characters won't actually be singing in the storyline.
    Is that your final answer?

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