Propagator Manifestation and Dimensions

[Serapy]

Had Ultimecia manage to complete her own time compression fully, she can finally possess her ability of sending certain objects into a dimension for eternity. I don't believe that this particular dimension will take place on the VIII world (the original landscapes) but rather somewhere else, like a desert island for example. Well, that did happen to Squall at the end but that was part of the time decompression (reversing Ultimecia's actions.) This is proof that the concept of a dimension exists in VIII.

Ok, the main characters are Squall, Quistis, Rinoa, Selphie, Zell and Irvine. That's six characters. How many sides does a cube have? Six. The six characters are merged as a dimension:

Top floor: Squall
Bottom floor: Rinoa
Left wall: Quistis
Right wall: Zell
Front wall: Selphie
Back wall: Irvine

If one of the sides is broken, the whole dimension will become useless. That's why Laguna told the dimension to take care of each side. How? Friendship. If each side thinks of each other and support each other, then the sides will stick each other; a strong and unbreakable dimension. It's only breakable when Ultimecia completes her TC. Because with Ultimecia's ability, she can basically move this dimension (the party) into another dimension forever.

Laguna is not who you think he is, he's just like Odine. Because what Laguna said has proven to be true at the end. Time decompression messes up everything. Squall's side losts his place in the dimension and that's why he ended up on a desert island.

As for the propagators manifestation...

This explains why Squall and Rinoa encountered the Propagators at the Ragnarok in the space.

After what Ultimecia's influence has done to the VIII world and Rinoa being given some evil power earlier (GG scene). Then, they travelled to the space, which is faster than speed of light. Why wouldn't this cause some sort of impact?

With the impact in mind, when Rinoa is lost in Space and Squall out looking for her, at that point, they were only thinking of each other. That's not good for the dimension. So, the two sides (Rinoa and Squall) get removed from the whole dimension. Something bad happens...

Ok, there are eight propagators at the Ragnarok:

Purple Propagator x 2 (One for Squall and another for Rinoa)
Red Propagator x 2 (One for Squall and another for Rinoa)
Green Propagator x 2 (One for Squall and another for Rinoa)
Yellow Propagator x 2 (One for Squall and another for Rinoa)

Basically, Rinoa's power made it possible that the impact manifested the propagators.

Oh, have you noticed how many letters does Ragnarok have? Eight! Yet there are eight propagators in it. Was this supposed to happen? Did someone name the ship Ragnarok because of what will happen in the future?

[leader of mortals]

Don't feed the troll people, just let this thread die please.

[rubah]

well I'm curious why squall has to be on top of Rinoa. I'm sure their sexytime is more intricate than mere missionary

[Darth Cid]

LOL, this sounds too potcrack, even for my early FFIX work.

[Serapy]

well I'm curious why squall has to be on top of Rinoa. I'm sure their sexytime is more intricate than mere missionary

It's like a mirror. Squall and Rinoa looking at each other all the time. Would Squall rather look at Rinoa than the other characters? Would Rinoa rather look at Squall than the other characters? That's why I put Squall on the top floor and Rinoa on the bottom floor. Well, I could have put Squall on the bottom floor and put Rinoa on the top floor instead, but ...

[MJN SEIFER]

Don't feed the troll people, just let this thread die please.

That's not a very nice coment. Serapy is just posting a theory like I and many others have done before. If you don't like the theory, or don't agree with it that's fine, but there is no need to acuse Serapy of trolling, because this isn't what trolling is. Trolling is causing fights and insulting people, and posting offensive messages - Serapy is just showing his/her viewpoint on the game, and it is interesting to hear these theories, even if I don't agree to them (I won't take sides on this one yet - let me studyit better.

I don't like the R=U theory for example (mostly because in my opinion it creates more plotholes than it solves), but I don't say everyone posting it is a troll.

[Serapy]

Each propagator in the Ragnarok can heal each other. This means that the propagtors' dimension is merged with Squall and Rinoa. Two dimensions interacting with each other in real-time. Because of real-time, they can heal now.

After when the consciousnesses of Squall and his Co. travel to Laguna and his Co. in the past and if Laguna, Ward or Kiro dies in battle, it won't be a big deal. Because the consciousness of that KO'd character is still alive. Whenever Squall and his Co. go back to the present or whenever Laguna and Co. feel free of the 'faires' feeling, the KO'd character becomes better. This means two dimensions BUT in different time. Because of different-time, they cannot heal now but rather later.
This is very similar to the propagators' dimension.

Think of it this way: if there are no propagtors left, they cannot heal each other anymore. If Laguna and his Co. are all KO'd, Squall and his Co. cannot revive them.
It's all about dimensions.
If one side (e.g. one propagtor) is missing from its dimension, the other sides will become useless, so they automatically get the missing side back... by healing it in real-time.
If one side (e.g. Ward) is missing from its dimension, the other sides will become useless, so they automatically get the missing side back... by healing it in different-time. Why different time? Cause they are in different times.

[rubah]

well I'm curious why squall has to be on top of Rinoa. I'm sure their sexytime is more intricate than mere missionary

It's like a mirror. Squall and Rinoa looking at each other all the time. Would Squall rather look at Rinoa than the other characters? Would Rinoa rather look at Squall than the other characters? That's why I put Squall on the top floor and Rinoa on the bottom floor. Well, I could have put Squall on the bottom floor and put Rinoa on the top floor instead, but ...

wouldn't that alter the entire relations if only Squall and Rinoa changed in position but everyone else was the same? Relative angles and stuff

[Serapy]

They can change positions in 4D but the connections will remain consistent if they were told what to do (according to Laguna's claim.)

[Ouch!]

Serapy is just posting a theory like I and many others have done before.

Except, you know, theories require some sort of evidence to support it, and a majority of the theories that pop up in the FFVIII forum are based on a lack of evidence.

[Serapy]

Any picture or text from the game is evidence. Neither is valued higher than the other. You people think that a piece of 'text' or 'speech' is more important than a picture. It seems.

Texts or speeches are useless to hard-hearing people in IRL. Ironic....... they use body language as the main source to decide what to do next. The usage of body language can be depicted as pictures. It's a shame that people ignore pictures and rather pay attention to texts or speeches.

Anyways, the only part of a theory that's not evidence is speculation. But that doesn't mean said theory is wrong because it contains no evidence. A lot of theories nowadays contain speculations. How do theories start? From evidence, of course.

It's no longer a theory if it has proven to be true; it becomes fact.

[leader of mortals]

Don't feed the troll people, just let this thread die please.

That's not a very nice coment. Serapy is just posting a theory like I and many others have done before. If you don't like the theory, or don't agree with it that's fine, but there is no need to acuse Serapy of trolling, because this isn't what trolling is. Trolling is causing fights and insulting people, and posting offensive messages - Serapy is just showing his/her viewpoint on the game, and it is interesting to hear these theories, even if I don't agree to them (I won't take sides on this one yet - let me studyit better.

I don't like the R=U theory for example (mostly because in my opinion it creates more plotholes than it solves), but I don't say everyone posting it is a troll.

This comment was not directed to be mean to Seraphy, although I did say it in a mean way. From my comment, I meant to tell people who disagreed with him to not attack him, and only let this thread die, unless of course they had something of reason to say. Also, I believe trolling is anything that was made for the purpose of getting an immediate negative response. I guess it would be hard for someone not in my mind to follow my train of thought, however

Of course, my comment would have been nicer if I saw merit within the theory that I read. Talking of the cube thing, I see it as a study of human behavior, not at all related to FF8, but instead to people in general. Also, I don't see how friendship alone will keep them together through time compression.

As for the propagators, 2 is a very common number. I do believe the designers of the game were trying to make a point with them about how Squall and Rinoa will help eachother, but it stops there. Ragnorak is a name already used in the series. There is no proof that the ship went faster than the speed of light(as far as I know). Time compression has not happened yet.

These last 2 paragraphs are what I originally was going to write, just shooting down his ideas one by one, but I figured that would be a negative, unneeded response, hence my current post.

[Serapy]

I can't help but these Propagators do look... quite familiar.

[Ouch!]

Twisting evidence to support your wild imaginings does not a theory make. If you actually managed to show a logical connection from one point to the next in your arguments, I might consider you as something more than an amusing read (in the way that I find crackpot conspiracy theorists amusing).

Edit: Just because a theory is not absolute proven fact does not mean you can classify any interpretation of an image or statement you might have as a "theory."

[rubah]

i think they should actually be arranged in an infolded three-way tripedal shape. The cube makes no sense.