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[Serapy]

Saying that Ultimecia is a different person isn't justified. You don't see much of her backstory in VIII,

You see more of her backstory than Sephiroth, Kefka, Golbez, etc. Because she tells us about it while she was possessing Edea.

I mean in terms of character development.

compared to the ones of the main characters. No, the Ultimania doesn't count.

Yes it does.

No, it doesn't. There are players' who don't understand the Ultimania (Japanese.) It's simple, if Square wanted to reclarify players' knowledges of the FFs, Square could of have added different languages support for the FFs, but they didn't.

So, you can't just rely on the Ultimania to understand everything.

Saying that R=U has no support or proof isn't justified, either. The plot of VIII isn't exactly a cat-walk in the ultimate maze. There are so many things that need to be answered in VIII.

Most of them are completely minor, and answered by the Ultimania. That was its purpose.

Why should we believe Ultimania over the original games? Never mind that the Ultimania has a few contradictions and yet you still believe them.

When they create a specific FF, it'd be usually intentional. But then when Square re-analyses that specific FF, they would make changes and hence the Ultimania. That does seem to defeat the meaning of originity...

This is obvious and simple. VIII has represented a lot of symbolic things even in plot areas. Understanding these things by yourself can affect the plot. Symbolic things (or symbolisms) AND R=U are actually the same thing.

NO. Because you don't need factual R=U for narrative symbolism to work.

Japanese is known for adding meanings to thier films and games, unlike the West. So, relying on fact for proof or disproof is just wrong.

They don't explictly tell you anything about them, they just show you, and that's it. So, proving or disproving these things are plain silly and wrong. Applying occam's razor to VIII where symbolisms are mostly used compared to other FFs... are again plain silly and wrong.

If I didn't think you were a troll before, bridgedweller, that just sealed the deal.

It's a shame that it's not possible for people to not get annoyed over text ...

If you're kind of that person who demands evidence or logic for everything, go play a different game. VIII isn't for you.

If you're the person who doesn't like providing evidence for your absurd claims, go find a new hobby. Hypothesizing is not for you.

I wasn't just talking about me or my claims, just in general. Seeing as how this game has a lot of symbolisms and meanings, and people relying on fact to reach conclusions... That's fine, but when it comes to things that don't tell us but show us, relying on fact is useless.