Tunnel

[Ryushikaze]

Opinion =/= Fact

Yes, and your opinion is not fact.

In terms of awareness, yes, it does.

But awareness is not validity. You being unaware of valid data makes it no less valid.

So, if I don't understand Japanese, it's my fault? Right.

Again, you are ignoring things I cannot be more explicit about.
THAT YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND is not to be blamed.
THAT YOU DECLARE IT INVALID BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND is.

A game is designed to impress the audience with its original story. You play VIII from start to finish and you would then draw a conclusion based on what you've learnt from the game. Suddenly, some little text from a third party totally changes that perspective. What you have felt from the game is no longer true.

Ultimania is not from a third party. It is from the creators, and sold by Square. And all this source changing your perspective means is that you were wrong.

Here's a similar scenario: Albus Dumbledore in Harry Potter. At first, his fans didn't ever reach a point where they would question his sexuality. Later, Rowling has claimed that he was actually gay. Therefore, some persons' views on Albus begin to change. Feel that, eh?

Him being gay is now fact. The point is that it does ruin some experience.

The people who assumed Albus was heterosexual were incorrect in their assumption, and the original author revealed new data that invalidated an assumption people made about her work, but not her work itself. And even if it 'ruins' the experience for a few homophobes, that's Rowling's prerogative.

No. On the VII's manual,

English Manual. Not the game. Not the japanese manual.

it mentions that his birthday is 19th August. Yet, in AC and Ultimania mention that his birthday is 11th August. Not to mention that his sign in Final Fantasy Tactics appears to be Aquarius. Aquarius =/= August.

FFT is not FFVII. FFT made a massive error regarding his astrological sign. It was also made by other people. How is this reflective on the Ultimania or AC/C, made by the same people who made FFVII is beyond me.

There are too many inconsistencies to write down here. You can find more somewhere.

I refuse to do your work for you and accept your concession for failing to address how Kefka being born in Thamasa is a contradiction.

The point is that if they have made mistakes, there's always a good chance that they will make same mistakes in the future. But that's uncommon, since they usually put additional detail on existing aspects of FFs. That's exactly what secured the credibility of Ultimania.

So if they are credible, why can't we trust them?

Don't agrue with me, then. You have already declared me as a troll, so why bother.

Because I play with trolls. I am cruel like that.

You an expert in Greek or something? If what you said is true, my greek friends would have said the same thing. Not to mention that they have never played VIII before!

...::points at the greek speaker IN THIS THREAD who has said exactly the same thing as me::

You people have agreed with the conclusion of some painting at Ultimecia's castle. Remember the famous line? Where did that line come from? It's from something that has incorrect grammar, apparently!

Incorrect grammar is a whole different kettle of fish than text that doesn't spell anything.

I'd apply for that job at Square. When I have that job, I'd change something in the Ultimania to my liking. And then it will become canonised! How wonderful!

See, the original games are more important to focus on than things such as Ultimania.

No. Neither is 'more important.'
And you would not be able to 'change something to your liking' in an Ultimania. Or get a job editing one. You don't speak Japanese. You'd put out Japanese text like the greek lettering on the tower.

R=U has about the same qualities as some symbolisms in VIII. The lions of Ultimecia, Griever, Rinoa finger sign at the Star, etc. The only difference is that they don't show up in dialogues.

Which again says nothing that they must be true. Squall is not literally a lion even though he is symbolically linked with them.

You look at this non-dialogueous thing, and you become curious about what does it do. It's impossible for that thing to have only one possibility.

Yes it is. It's also possible for it to have none. But again 'meaning with multiple conclusion' means you aren't talking about meanings. The 'meanings' would be the 'conclusions'

How was I supposed to acknowledge which thread will you reply to first?

I've been replying to all of them. There's no need to repeat yourself.

Although, you stopped replying to him; he was always the last. Same thing happened to Sir Bahamut.

I told him I would ignore him because his histrionic tirade at me about my 'misuse' of Parsimony was wrong but moreover off topic. After I DID respond to that, he was immediately banned for his response, so I had no reason TO respond.

I just find this absolutely hilarious and ironic. After the acknowledgement that I'm a troll (according to you), we would keep arguing. Yet, between people like Lychon and you will stop agruing at some point. Of course, people will stop arguing eventually, but not like this!

Lychon was a red herring to my current discussion. With you, playing with my new chewtoy is the entire purpose.

No.

I know. 'No, they aren't based in fact', I accepted your concession already.

Actually, what I did was removing visual images from the game and represent them here; such visual images that are not made up. Then, I'd make connections between said visual images. That's not even 100% fan fiction. A bit, but not all. No need to exaggerate.

Like I said, you're making things up that aren't in the game. You're asserting there are connections.

And this is NOT a theroy!

Then what in the name of Beelzebub is it?