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Thread: Let's discuss Cloud's main love interest: Aerith or Tifa

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    Tifa. I don't recall any romantic moments between Aeris and Cloud. Maybe some deep moments but certainly nothing romantic. Tifa reacts angrily when some slutty bird comes in and hits on her man, but sluttiness is not love at all. And Aeris is slutty. Anyone who would act the way she did around Cloud in the real world after only knowing them for that short a time would be called a slut by a lot of people. She also had it in for Zack, of course, but was probably willing to sleep with Cloud 'cause they were in the same crew that one time. Total slut actions. What a whore.

    Tifa, on the other hand, acts exactly like a romantic lover would throughout. She stares at the stars with him, talks about the past and the future, and, you know, clearly gets it on when they're around the crater thing.

    And really - really - you don't buy flowers from a girl you love and give them to a girl you don't love. That's just stupid. I mean, Cloud is stupid, but he's not that thick.
    Lol, really? Aerith is NOT a slut. If she was a slut, she would have been screwing guys constantly after Zack wasn't around. She waited for Zack and when he didn't come back, she went to Cloud. That's two guys that she did NOT sleep with, ergo she is NOT a slut. (Can't tell if you're being serious or not though )

    As I said, I believe you can share your feelings with someone and talk about the future with him/her, and having a lot of memories of the past, and even live some situations that could be named as romantic by others with someone and just be friends with him/her... =/
    I mean, I have friends like that, the ones I use to share a lot of feelings and things of my life with them, and we usually make plans for the future (I can even remember we have talked more than once about living together for working or studying, the reasons doesn't matter)... I have also been in situations that someone could call romantic with some of them (alone), like watching the dusk in a beach and things like that, but I only have a friend relationship with them and we won't have something more than friends love... We could Never have something more! D:!
    Honestly, in any other fandom all of that information would be enough to deem a couple canon. Look at it as a whole. Sure two people can share feelings related to their future and not be a couple. I guess you could raise a family with someone and not be their lover. Sure two people can belong together as friends.... but when you look at all those quotes as a whole, there's no reason to think that they're not a couple. I mean, if they used one, maybe TWO I could see you getting by on the just friends thing, but the evidence to suggest they're a couple is overwhelming when you look at it as the full puzzle and not just one piece at a time.

    But well, the point is that I think Tifa can really have a love relationship with Barret more than with Cloud, and having all those memories and situations with him are not proof of Cloud loving her...
    Based on what exactly? Your basis for Cloud and Tifa not being able to have a relationship is that Cloud doesn't love Tifa... when did Barret show he loved Tifa?

    And it IS shown Cloud loves Tifa. It's the whole reason he went into SOLDIER. Also, in the lifestream event after Tifa says to the younger Cloud that she began looking for information about him in the newspapers he says something along the lines of, "Be sure to tell him that, he'll be happy to hear it." If Cloud's feelings are platonic, he wouldn't care so much about this. Also I'm sure Cloud wouldn't care so much about just a "friend" reading about him in the newspaper. And read Case of Tifa and tell me this sounds platonic:

    Quote Originally Posted by Case of Tifa
    “Cloud, you’re smiling.”

    “I am?”

    “Yeah.”

    “It all starts now. A new…”

    Cloud looked for the right words.

    “A new life.”

    “I’m going to live. I think that’s the only way I can be forgiven. All sorts of things… happened.”

    “That’s right…”

    “But when I think about how many times I’ve thought about how I was going to start a new life, it’s funny.”

    “Why?”

    “Because I’ve always failed everything.”

    “That’s not funny.”

    “After this … I think I’ll be okay.”

    Cloud was silent for a long time before he spoke again.

    “Because I have you this time.”

    “You’ve always had me.”

    “What I mean is kind of different,” Cloud answered with another smile.
    Cloud is talking about having Tifa by his side in a way that's different than before. What is different? They shared and realized their mutual feelings for one another under the highwind and it wouldn't make sense for them to be realizing a friendship they already had...

    Quote Originally Posted by Case of Tifa
    When Tifa and Cloud were alone, Cloud said, “It’s not like you to be troubled by your thoughts.”
    “It’s… Just the way I am.”
    “No. You’re much more cheerful and strong. If you’ve forgotten the way you were then, I’ll be there to remind you.”
    “You really will?”
    “Probably,” Cloud said blushing.
    Why is Cloud blushing here? Embarrassment? That doesn't fit the context. Must be something else going on.

    And I don't remember Tifa and Cloud raising a family =/ ...please tell me If I'm wrong, but I remember them sharing life moments (Maybe living sometime with Cloud, but Cloud later moved to the church when he had Geostigma) and taking care of kids, but it was Barret there too =/...(FF7:AC)...Please tell me if I'm wrong, I never liked FF7 so much...
    You are so wrong... so very very very wrong...

    First of all, they WERE raising a family:
    Cloud, Tifa, Marlene and Denzel have been referred to as a family SEVERAL times.

    Quote Originally Posted by 10th Anniversary Ultimania
    Now running a delivery business while helping out Tifa with the newly opened “Seventh Heaven” bar, Cloud, Tifa, Marlene and Denzel lived together like a family.
    ...........
    With the support of former allies and Tifa, an important woman to him and now also part of his family, Cloud regains the courage to move forward.
    Quote Originally Posted by 10th Anniversary Ultimania
    After traveling to several places with Cloud and Barret, Tifa opens the bar Seventh Heaven in Edge on the advice of those around her. She was given custody of Marlene from Barret, who had left on a journey to find a new energy source. Together with Cloud, the 3 of them began living together as a family.
    Notice the part I bolded. It specifically states the three of them are a family. Just the three of them, Barret is not included.

    Also from the 10th Anniversary Ultimania:
    Cloud brings Denzel back from the slum’s church and Denzel joins Cloud’s family.
    Right there it states that the family is Cloud's and again Denzel joins it. No mention of Barret.

    Also in FFVII AC Cloud calls the family his.
    "Tifa I don't think I'm fit to help anyone. Not my family, not my friends, nobody."

    Lastly there's the ACC playback. This guide also specifically states who's in the family:

    When he awakes, there was his friends. There were the children, freed from their fatal illness. Tifa and Marlene, and Denzel asking for Cloud to heal his Geostigma– his family were waiting. Engulfed in celebration, he realises where he is meant to live. He realises that he was able to forgive himself.
    In order we have
    1.His friends.
    2.The children
    3.Tifa, Marlene and Denzel... his family! No mention of Barret or anyone else being in the family. Tifa, Marlene and Denzel are separated from the rest. So no, Barret was NOT there with them. It was confirmed in Case of Tifa that Barret left shortly after they opened the bar:

    Quote Originally Posted by Case of Tifa
    After the first week of being open, Barret said that he would go on a trip seeing how well the business was going. He was going to leave Marlene behind.
    “I wanna go on a journey to settle my past.”
    Tifa was disturbed at Barret’s words. Cloud nodded calmly as if he had heard about this before.
    “Settle your past…? But I want to do that too.”
    ”Tifa, you can do it here. Don’t just take. Show that you can give too.”
    After saying this, Barret said he still had to get ready and walked out of the bar.
    And just like that he's gone and he does not return until FFVII AC/C. If you're going to argue that Cloud isn't in the family because he's not at 7th heaven much... you can't POSSIBLY say Barret is part of the family as he's NEVER there. As for Cloud not living there in ACC, we've discussed this already. It was due to his guilt. After that was resoled, he came back and continued to live with Tifa and the children, but you know who didn't? Barret.

    Quote Originally Posted by 10th Anniversary Ultmania
    · Aerith lends her power to the people suffering from Geostigma in Edge, and personally provides for Cloud’s recovery. Geostimga is cured. Cloud returns to Tifa and the children.
    Maybe they really wanted to make a love triangle for the story, but I think the result was a little different to what they maybe wanted because the final product didn't make a lot of us get that impression...
    Only if you don't know the material.

    I really think we are talking too much about something not that important...
    I don't have a gun to your head forcing you to reply, do I? You're welcome to not reply at any time.

    EDIT: As for what Cloud feels, a lot of what he says is dictated by the player. They basically set it out a fair bit so you can get your own emotional attachments to other characters, to feel as if you are Cloud. I'm not saying he had zero personality, but I am saying that you could make Cloud be a dick to Tifa or you could make him flirt with Tifa. Basically, Cloud might feel emotions but in the original game they are significantly impacted by the player.
    And yet, no matter what you do to Tifa, they still share their feelings for one another under the highwind and “live together in AC and DC.” Strange, isn't it? It's like they're trying to send us a message
    Last edited by Shishikabob; 11-18-2009 at 12:09 AM.
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