Ultimecia`s Physical Consciousness and the year of VIII (1572)

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Ultimecia's used a huge amount of energy travelling through time. So, I don't see why not.

Even if she did, which we don't know, she did so for a purpose. Not to look pretty.

Another example - her taking a gigantic thing out of Squall's mind. That must have taken her a lot of energy to waste.

I never once said or claimed that they are absolutely the same thing.

Which is immaterial. You still need to prove it.

I've shown two arts and then voiced my opinion, and that's about it.

You have used common sense to claim something in VIII (Cid loving Edea), so why not apply the same sense to the art works? Use your eyes, my friend. Even then, you have claimed that they don't alike. It's still illogical to ask for proof that they are actually alike.

Considering you haven't said what FFVIII art and what real world art you're talking about, it's illogical for you to ask me to compare them for myself. Unless it's the pictures in this thread, which aren't identical IN THE SLIGHTEST.

You knew that it's impossible to prove this - and when you asked me to prove it, all I could sugguested was for you to compare between them. If they don't look alike to you, fair enough.

I beg to differ. Your attitude is a bit worse, me thinks.

I'm at least intellectually honest, chewtoy.

So am I.

Honestly, if you knew what would happen after accusing me being a troll, why feel the need to keep arguing?

I think there's a conspiracy to all of this. When Squall of Seed, Sir B and TOK started appearing out of no where, you came on.

And again, you see patterns where none exist.

Stop denying it.

I have no idea what am I doing. Please elaborate?

You are claiming things. That is the very heart of what you're doing.

So, if I put a 'K' character here. I claim the 'K' character?

I think Rinoa broke that circle... since her appearance didn't change when she was captive of Ultimecia.

You still do not understand what is meant by circular, here. Or simply refuse to acknowledge.

Ultimecia gives her own power to Edea at the beginning. At that point, she had black clothes and long hair. And when she was given this power, she looks still the same. This proves that her appearance doesn't change instantly after being given a power and further proves that her appearance doesn't change while being not possessed.

Years later, we see Edea again at Deling. This time, she was possessed by Ultimecia and her appearance is different. In one of the FMVs, her head was seen evolving.

Squall and his party can change thier appearances by wearing different clothes. Not through regular magic.

Since Ultimecia is in control of Edea's mind, she can do whatever she wants. Were her golden shapes behind her back made of human material? Or were they come from sorceress magic? Apart from her head that we saw from the FMV.

Are the faces of Matron and Edea a bit different?

Then when Edea got rid of Ultimecia after her defeat. Her appearance is still there. I'm assuming that she still can do the head thing (her helmet is still there after her defeat.) At the ending, she's now got her old appearance back. I'm guessing she removed them by herself. Threw them in bin can or something. I guess this proves that her appearance is made of human material, since they didn't disappear. If Ultimecia got rid of, her blood-magic-made-of-clothes should disappear too.

Conclusion: Since I don't know when exactly did Ultimecia change Edea's appearance, but I can assume that she changed it when she was first possessed. When she was possessed, nobody's done something about it. This means that she had better freedom, she can do anything without someone interfering her. She can buy clothes or whatever.

Ultimecia knowing that she can possess two persons (Rinoa and Edea.) She prefers Edea. She used Rinoa to do dirty jobs, such as freeing Adel, and that's it. If Rinoa is a slave to Ultimecia and Ultimecia knowing that the public believes the new Edea, why should she change Rinoa's appearance? I don't think there's any other purpose why would Ultimecia possess Rinoa.

All of this shows that if Rinoa was possessed by a different person after the game, her appearance can be changed if she wants to.
If Edea and Matron's faces looked different. Then Rinoa and X faces MAY look different.