Ultimecia`s Physical Consciousness and the year of VIII (1572)

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Another example - her taking a gigantic thing out of Squall's mind. That must have taken her a lot of energy to waste.

Which she did for direct tactical benefit. Not for prettying herself up.

It's not like she uses free energy to pull something out of someone's head. And it's not like she uses free energy to make her head look that cool.

I've shown two arts and then voiced my opinion, and that's about it.

And those two arts are not at all alike. Hence you cannot based anything on them being 'identical' when they aren't.

Two different opinions arguing with each other? That's great!

You knew that it's impossible to prove this - and when you asked me to prove it, all I could sugguested was for you to compare between them. If they don't look alike to you, fair enough.

I'm noting you still have not said specified any art in FFVIII or the real world aside from the thread opener, which are categorically not identical.

You have played VIII before, so, you must have seen something that's not dialogueous. A lof of them, why do I require the task to represent all of them here. And no, I'm not claiming anything.

So am I.

If you are not being intellectually dishonest by attacking strawmen of my arguments, then you simply cannot follow my arguments.

Stop denying it.

I don't need to deny 'it', there is no 'it.'

Nothingness can't exist.

So, if I put a 'K' character here. I claim the 'K' character?

Are you being willfully obtuse? You are CLAIMING Ultimecia wastes her power changing Edea's appearance. You are CLAIMING things every time you make one of these threads.

Wait, Ultimecia changed the way how her head looks by using nothingness? So, the obvious answer is... magic.

Ultimecia gives her own power to Edea at the beginning. At that point, she had black clothes and long hair. And when she was given this power, she looks still the same. This proves that her appearance doesn't change instantly after being given a power and further proves that her appearance doesn't change while being not possessed.

Or it doesn't prove anything since we don't see when Edea changes.

It proves that she didn't change instantly after a power is given to herself.

Years later, we see Edea again at Deling. This time, she was possessed by Ultimecia and her appearance is different. In one of the FMVs, her head was seen evolving.

...Her skullcap was seen changing. Not her head. Her skullcap. Her hat.

There's skull on her head?

Squall and his party can change thier appearances by wearing different clothes. Not through regular magic.

Since Ultimecia is in control of Edea's mind, she can do whatever she wants. Were her golden shapes behind her back made of human material? Or were they come from sorceress magic? Apart from her head that we saw from the FMV.

Why assume her clothing is magic based AT ALL?

Are you implying that her changing the way her head looks is made of human material?

Are the faces of Matron and Edea a bit different?

We never see the left side of Edea's face in Hi resolution, so for all we know, she still does bear her sorceress's corruption without her power. Other than that, they are the same.

Why does the left side of her face have to be important? Aren't they just like mirrored?

Then when Edea got rid of Ultimecia after her defeat. Her appearance is still there. I'm assuming that she still can do the head thing (her helmet is still there after her defeat.) At the ending, she's now got her old appearance back. I'm guessing she removed them by herself. Threw them in bin can or something. I guess this proves that her appearance is made of human material, since they didn't disappear. If Ultimecia got rid of, her blood-magic-made-of-clothes should disappear too.

Yes, though that logic should not be necessary in the first place since clothing is more parsimonious explanation.

Doesn't explain the animations she did in the FMV, though.

Conclusion: Since I don't know when exactly did Ultimecia change Edea's appearance, but I can assume that she changed it when she was first possessed. When she was possessed, nobody's done something about it. This means that she had better freedom, she can do anything without someone interfering her. She can buy clothes or whatever.

Ultimecia knowing that she can possess two persons (Rinoa and Edea.) She prefers Edea. She used Rinoa to do dirty jobs, such as freeing Adel, and that's it. If Rinoa is a slave to Ultimecia and Ultimecia knowing that the public believes the new Edea, why should she change Rinoa's appearance? I don't think there's any other purpose why would Ultimecia possess Rinoa.

She can't possess Edea because Edea isn't a sorceress any longer- or even if she can, Edea isn't useful to her, not being a sorceress any longer.

Edea looked calm when she was possessed. But when Rinoa was possessed, she looked like she was sleepwalking. And these holographic versions of herself behind her.

All of this shows that if Rinoa was possessed by a different person after the game, her appearance can be changed if she wants to.
If Edea and Matron's faces looked different. Then Rinoa and X faces MAY look different.

But Edea's face looks the same aside from the minor scarring of the corruption. You can absolutely recognize her as the same person both in and out of the outfit, from the FMV she's introduced in to the final sequences.

So, she used magic to shorten her hair, used magic to change her head, and used magic to changer the colours of her eyes. Used human material for the rest of her appearance.



How can her sheeps hold a huge amount of hair? It was definitely magic.

Well, they don't look exactly the same.