I really don't understand why it's such a big deal. I mean, it's not like fanbase expansion is anything new...FF started out on Nintendo, remember? Didn't start making it for PS until FFVII, as a matter of fact, and that transition was VERY nice. Can't wait to see what it'll be like for the 360.
So, someone care to explain why it's so bad that they want to make it for 360 as well as PS3? Cause, like a lot of others, I'm not seeing the logic behind the complaint here.
I'm still waiting on a source that's telling the reason why they're different, as well as proving differences between versions/regions. Seraphy never supplied anything like that, and I haven't seen any either. Believe me, I have looked. There could be a myriad of reasons for the texture changes, we don't know for sure that it's even the 360's fault. But of course, a lot of PS3 fanboys are gonna claim it is with no backing just cause they hate the 360 for no good reason.Originally Posted by black orb
>>> Well, if those screens posted by Serapy are correct, Yes..
All that's for certain is that at one point, the textures were as shown in one of the screenshot, and that a different point, they were as in shown in the other screenshot.
everything is wrapped in gray
i'm focusing on your image
can you hear me in the void?
>>> There is this thread too..
>> The black orb glitters ominously... but nothing happens..
Except that's the only blog that has come up with this claim, seriously Google the topic and you will find nothing official concerning this not even the Gametrailers interview the blog mentions. You would think a topic like this would be everywhere on the interweb but it isn't.
Most topics I find even talking about it are usually found on fan forums which are using it as fuel for more console war fodder. Most people are bitching cause they say the Japanese audio won't be an option for XIII cause it won't fit on the 360 version but if you actually go back to the interviews from this years E3 and Tokyo Game Show, you find out that SE just wasn't aware it was an option fans wanted.
*DISCLAIMER*This is a general rant and not targeted towards anyone specifically.
Seriously, this whole "they betrayed us" speech is just plain stupid. SE has expanded their market and will now reach a greater audiance than before. The game will probably still be a technical marvel and god knows we still have future entries to look forward to. Save the playground "my truck is better than your truck" speech back on the playground and just grow up. Its still FF and it still looks better on a technical level than any other game in the series. What's important is how it plays and how the story is, I don't think the 360 version preventing the developers from putting 25 enemies instead of 20 on the screen is a horrible blasphemy. Even the changes Kitase said happened in the interview are hardly terrible.
As for the picture changes, this is the smurfing game industry, they always butter up stuff, remember the "in-game" tech demo for Killzone 2 when the PS3 was getting ready to come out? Even the battle scenes from the original XIII trailer look staged rather than actual in-game footage, especially what we've seen now (which is better). Chances are the pics that looked different could be simple marketing brush job to make the game look even more amazing than it really is. Its not an uncommon practice.
True beauty exists in things that last only for a moment.
Current Mood: And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe. Maybe this year will be better than the last. I can't remember all the times I tried to tell myself. To hold on to these moments as they pass...
Personally, the dumbing down does somewhat bother me, but I don't care enough so long as the game still has exceptional quality. I'd like to see a lot more comparison pictures as well.
That said, I know almost nothing about XIIIvs.
I can see why that would bother you but really, like DP said, it really shouldn't matter THAT much, just as long as the quality is still good. And since I've seen it mentioned more than just once that that particular article that is used as the source for the other thread is the ONLY place that says anything about this cut, I find it hard to believe that anything like that is even going to happen, so...
Yeah, it's not like ANYONE has utilized a Blu-Ray disc at all yet. Square would have been my first guess, but it looks like they will shy away as well.
I don't think filling up a disk is really a measure of technical optimization. Star Ocean 3 was 2 DVDs, whereas FFXII was only half of one.
It's a pretty good indicator.
No, not really.
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
For anyone wondering about that screenshot comparison.
Sometimes developers will have a 'target render' so there is a level of quality they can aim for. Sometimes it turns out better, sometimes it turns out a little worse.
The first is the early target render version running on PC software, because the PC is the platform that they are developing on. However, this was still before their Crystal Tools was fully developed and so that was not real-time gameplay.
The second is a shot from late 2008 running on the consoles. Those are old. This scene has been shown again in new screens where the quality is pretty much the same if not better than the target render (when you dont compare gameplay to FMV screenshots).
The screenshots had false year labels. I got the link proving this somewhere, you'll have to trust me for now until I can find it again.
I will admit that last year I was a little worried of the game getting nerfed cause of its multiplatform nature as well, but SE seemed to really have worked their asses off so I don't see ANY reason to complain.
Last edited by Croyles; 12-02-2009 at 09:35 AM.
There wasn't just one blog mentioning the cuts, a lot of places were reporting on the changes over time even Kotaku.
http://kotaku.com/5328458/final-fant...-youve-changed
The changes are from August 08 to June 09, unless Croyles finds the link that the year labels are wrong..
Well I cant find the link at the moment but if you look the 2008 images are non-playable whereas the 2009 ones are.
y would anything 1 thats calls there self a Final fantasy fan skip ff13 or any neww ff title for that matter
because of self-righteous, pseudo-elitist notions.
But your post is pretty much my thoughts exactly.
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