Is Cid cheating on Edea?

[crazybayman]

Holy $h!t, are you people still seriously arguing about this?

Don't be hatin' on Cid. He can't help it if he's a playa'. Know'm sayin'.

[BardTard]

Yes and I agree with the Quistis thing. And then she became unlicensed because Cid is getting too old for her and she said no.

[Tiamat3710]

Arguing about common sense, logic, or whatever that has nothing to do with VIII was always a bad idea.

You need this common sense and logic to prove any one of youre theories....Maybe if you would kindly use common sense and proper logic we wouldnt spend so much time discussing "whatever that has nothing to do with VIII"

But that 'previous established fact regarding how sorceresses go insane sans knights' quote is considered as a conclusion. You used that conclusion to claim that Ultimecia went insane simply because she didn't have a knight. You cannot just assume that without knowing what exactly happened to Adel or Ultimecia before the game's timeline. It's still circular reasoning.

The previous established fact is a fact not a conclusion. Upon that fact he made a reasonable and logical conclusion....it isnt neccessarily correct but it makes sense and is likely...which is more than i can say for youre conclusions.

I cant believe you had the audacity to say that he cant just assume something without knowing something for certain. Thats pretty much what you have been doing the entire time you have been in this thread. Hypocritical much?

I've made various claims that don't connect with each other. That is not hypocrisy. At the end, I'll evaluate and choose which one to believe.

He didnt say making baseless arguements are hypocritical. Hes telling you that after making all youre baseless assumptions its extremely hypocritical to turn right around and tell him "We cannot just assume that". At least his assumptions have proper evidence to support them.

Still, it wasn't mentioned whether she had a knight or not.

It wasnt mentioned that Adel went crazy in prison either. Its completely fine to assume she had....as long as you provide evidence to support the assumption. Which his assumption has and youre assumption does not.

We are not talking about what her real name is.

Yes we are...you said her real name is Matron and Edea is just a codename for her being a sorceress or something.

Tell you what.... if that isnt what were talking about....what in the smurf ARE we talking about?

Not all.

ALL OF IT! You said youreself that EVERYTHING and i mean absoulutely EVERYTHING must be FIXED in order to fuel the wall of destiny.

End of story.

Actually, it does. Because if you did that, all the arguments would have ended quickly. We are getting no where as of this moment.

No it does not....learn to debate.

Everything what I've said or displayed actually come from the game. The only difference is that I connected these dots together.

Maybe these dots dont exist at all. Usually if the develeopers WANTED you to connect these dots they would give you little hints towards that conclusion. Like FACTUAL EVIDENCE for example to suggest at this. If there is no factual evidence theres a extremely good chance the develeopers simply didnt put any dots in there for you to connect.

Who said I was capable of being emotional?

Youre human right? Then you are able to be emotional.

Not technically. Zell, Selphie, Matron, etc were the first to face Squall. Rinoa is somewhere after that order.

Irrelevant.

There's nothing wrong with being a bit creative.

Youre not being creative...youre making baseless theories and frankly being a absoulute pain in the backside whenever someone attempts to disprove them despite how convincing the evidence is.

That was an analogy. Of course, they are not exactly the same.

An egg has NO features whatsoever that are similair to a humans head.

I withdrew something from the game because Cid and Edea were involved. How is that off-topic?

Youre being off topic because we were discussing Interpersonal relationships and brought up irrelevant crap concerning magic and time travel etc.

But you cannot just ignore the fact that it made Squall / Party call her Matron. I'm focusing on that fact, not the fact that her name is actually Edea.

No you were not. This arguement originally began because you said that Matron was her actual name. You went on to argue that shes Matron because Squall and Co call her so. When her actual and factual name is Edea. Ryu is correct and you wont admit it.

No, I wasn't. I'm on Squall's side. So, I don't see how mentioning "it's Matron" would be morally incorrect.

While this has nothing to do with morals i think i know what youre trying to say....basically youre arguing that "I refer to her as Matron because Squall does and interpersonally i like that name so its fine that i refer to her as Matron" and with that i agree. Use any name you wish for her but dont go about correcting people whenever they call her Edea with "Its matron" because both names are acceptable.

Geez.

So?

Do we really need to explain this? Really?

A lot of things have happened in VIII.

And the majority of those things have nothing to do with the subject were discussing so that is irrelevant.

What I withdraw from the game is always more relevant.

You are free to withdraw anything you want from the game as long as it is supported by factual evidence. You have withdrawed something that has no factual evidence suporting it. Provoide some or dimiss youre assumptions or theories or whatever the hell they are.

Brians are not designed to automate 'common sense' and 'logic' at the same time when inside a fantasy world.

What are you talking about?

No, it's not.

Protip: If youre English isnt that good...dont enter a debate.

They don't make sense compared to our real world. So, you cannot just use your real world laws to adapt the VIII world's laws. That would be illogical.

Some things inside the FFVIII world are indeed ficticious when compared to ours. The topic in particular you were discussing however is not. Interpersonal relationships are very similair to those expirienced in real life.

We only see her and the kids at certain times. And on the world map, her house looks pretty... isolated from the other buildings.

Im sorry...its much more likely that she just told someone else...just because she is isolated does not mean she wasnt capable of telling someone.

That is circular reasoning, because you used the 'Cid and Edea are married' premise to claim that they actually have met and fell in love. Again, we don't know what happened to them before the game's timeline. You cannot just assume that.

If he "cannot just assume that" then you cant either so both theories are equally plausible.

Yeah, a sentence.

Youre getting warmer....a little more.

I do. Do you?

I seriously doubt you do.

If it made no sense, why the need to fight against it?

Because youre trying to pass it off as something that is either true or at least plausible...when it cant be classified as either without sufficent evidence.

[I Don't Need A Name]

C+R=U

[crazybayman]

C+R=U

I was thinking more along the lines of C + Q = U