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    I second the previous post and I will add a touch of fangirlism to it...
    Jecht is way much hawter then Seymour...

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    Maybe we could have had champagne or wine..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    If Yuna was in-game, she would hopefully play off her summoning techniques, not just another straight caster (of which the game has plenty and none of them are underpowered). Since the summons were uniquely hers in FFX, they would make sense to be a part of her play-style, and I would love to see them implemented.

    That being said, Jecht and Seymour were the only villain choices, and Jecht was a much, much better choice than Seymour. Choosing Jecht pretty much assured that they would choose Tidus to pair him with.
    I don't know, considering the fact the game already has a summoning system, I find it highly unlikely they will ever create a pure summoner character for this game. Even if they only stuck to her summons that are not used in the normal summon system that only gives her three summons to use. I feel if they ever put Yuna in this game it will be as her X-2 incarnation, especially since she's a tad more lively and not completely useless like she was in X. Besides, her X-2 incarnation offers a much better and more diverse elements to be utilized for gameplay than a summoner would be.

    As for Tidus, he is the main character cause the whole story is told from his perspective quite literally and he's the one who actually works as a catalyst to ensure the sappy heroine actually saves Spira. If Tidus wasn't there, Yuna would have just thrown her life away like the past summoners. Though Auron was the mastermind behind finally defeating Sin for good, Tidus and Jecht played pivotal roles that I feel outshines Yuna and Seymour's parts in this game.

    Besides, Jecht is like one of the few really awesome characters in X and needs more screen time, no one likes Seymour

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    I would have liked it if they had multiple heroes and multiple villains from each original game to clash, instead of only one hero and one villain each.
    Is that your final answer?

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    22 characters in a fighter is already a lot

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    22 is a lot, especially for a handheld, and in order to fit more it may need to be moved to console.

    I think the only thing that bugs me about character additions for the Dissidia game was that Kitase teased about putting Sora into a sequel if they ever decide to make one, and I guess my inner fanboy kinda feels that's not cool since I consider KH completely separate from the FF series (the cameos are just cameos and hardly hold much weight in the plot) especially if he gets added over other popular FF character spin-off titles like Ramza, Zack, Paine, or the Chronicles races. The annoying thing is that if they do decide to make sequels its probably going to be inevitable unless there is some fan outcry.

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    Sora's villain for KH = Riku. Sora's villain for KH2 = IDK... Axel? Demyx?
    Sora's KH EX Burst = Trinity Heart (or whatever it was called)
    Sora's KH2 EX Burst = Wisdom, Valor, Master, Final, Roxas! Master Hearts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    Beatrix was the secondary villain of IX (debatable, but she comes the closest, even though she's also a good guy), and, yes, Gilgamesh was the secondary villain of V.

    I thought Kuja was the secondary. Wasn't there some dude pulling his strings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcanedude34 View Post
    And all these characters would feel WEIRD to me in lieu of the choices they made. If it were up to me, the only change on the villain's side would be Xande in place of CoD, but that's personal preference.

    Miss Darkness was chosen specifically as a nod to the fact that ultimately Ultimecia was merely a fusion of Darkness and Palamecia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    Golbez was the main villain of IV for a long time. Certainly as much as Kuja was (after all, Kuja was just being used by Garland).

    And, yes, Seymour sucks. Badly.

    There it is.

    Well, I don't know. Seymour's final form seemed okay. He even had a creepy giant pet.
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    Why not go with the daddy-thing for Squall?
    What would you think if Laguna was a bad guy..?

    I can hear him distantly say something like:
    LEG CRAMP...
    in the middle of battle
    Hahaha, alright, they NEED to make Laguna a villain in Dissidia 2. I don't care if it doesn't make sense, it'd be hilarious.
    Are they planning a new Dissidia???
    LMAO, that would be so cool...
    Put Laguna on the evil side, all hell will definetly break loose!

    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setzer the Gambler View Post
    to fill their pockets with our so hard earned money and in order to achieve world domination with their legions of evil video game handsome men...

    I am desperate to join the Legion of Squee. They would call me Squaltimos and I would be mighty... morphing....lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *Devore* View Post
    All of you Yuna lovers need to ignore FFX-2. That was just a side game, not part of the main franchise and thus, they wouldn't have put her in a Gunner outfit. If she was in the game then she would have been slow and weak, always having to run away and cast spells from really far away. Not much of a fighter.
    Tidus rules X although I would have prefered Auron, but he was not the main character.

    1. Just because she's a gunner, doesn't mean she'd be slow or weak. Look at all the other spellcasters in the game. No doubt, they would have compromised as they did with Cecil and Squall by giving her some of Lulu's spells.
    2. There was a Job System in X-2, so Yuna could become anything in-game. Though, hopefully her fighting style would more closely resemble Paine because her X-2 Warrior form plays just like Tidus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyblade View Post
    If Yuna was in-game, she would hopefully play off her summoning techniques.
    I don't know, the game already has a summoning system, I find it highly unlikely a pure summoner character would fit for this game. Even if they stuck to summons that aren't used in the normal summon system that only gives her three summons to use.

    Well, we've got the bird, Valefor, Ixion, Yojimbo, oh, and the Oblivion of Anima. Booyah! Could you imagine if you could equip a different summon for each battle and see the summon as her EX Burst?
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    I feel if they ever put Yuna in this game it will be as her X-2 incarnation, especially since she's a tad more lively and not completely useless like she was in X. Besides, her X-2 incarnation offers much better and more diverse elements to be utilized for gameplay than a summoner would be.

    Paine could probably be used in a sequel as the representative for X-2.
    Quote Originally Posted by qwertysaur View Post
    22 characters in a fighter is already a lot
    Not for a sequel, bub.
    Jack: How do you know?

    Will: It's more of a feeling really.

    Jack: Well, that's not scientific. Feeling isn't knowing. Feeling is believing. If you believe it, you can't know because there's no knowing what you believe. Then again, no one should believe what they know either. Once you know anything that anything becomes unbelievable if only by virtue of the fact you now... know it. You know?

    Will: No.

    If Demolition Man were remade today

    Huxley: What's wrong? You broke contact.
    Spartan: Contact? I didn't even touch you.
    Huxley: Don't you want to make love?
    Spartan: Is that what you call this? Why don't we just do it the old-fashioned way?
    Huxley: NO!
    Spartan: Whoa! Okay, calm down.
    Huxley: Don't tell me to calm down!
    Spartan: What's gotten into you? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't me.
    Huxley: Physical relations in the way of intercourse are no longer acceptable John Spartan.
    Spartan: What? Why the hell not?
    Huxley: It's the law, John. And for your information, the very idea that you suggested it makes me feel personally violated.
    Spartan: Wait a minute... violated? Huxley what the hell are you accusing me of here?
    Huxley: You need to leave, John.
    Spartan: But Huxley.
    Huxley: Get out!
    Moments later Spartan is arrested for "violating" Huxley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    22 is a lot, especially for a handheld, and in order to fit more it may need to be moved to console.

    I think the only thing that bugs me about character additions for the Dissidia game was that Kitase teased about putting Sora into a sequel if they ever decide to make one, and I guess my inner fanboy kinda feels that's not cool since I consider KH completely separate from the FF series (the cameos are just cameos and hardly hold much weight in the plot) especially if he gets added over other popular FF character spin-off titles like Ramza, Zack, Paine, or the Chronicles races. The annoying thing is that if they do decide to make sequels its probably going to be inevitable unless there is some fan outcry.
    Then perhaps they should make a console version (multiplayer will have to be online only in this case), and even an arcade machine, as I mentioned earlier.
    Is that your final answer?

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    >>> The Dissidia cast was perfect..
    >> The black orb glitters ominously... but nothing happens..

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    Just had to correct myself.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    1. Just because she's NOT a gunner, doesn't mean she'd be slow or weak. Look at all the other spellcasters in the game. No doubt, they would have to compromised as they did with Cecil/Kain and Squall/Seifer by giving her some of Lulu's spells.
    And this bears repeating.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X
    Quote Originally Posted by qwertysaur View Post
    22 characters in a fighter is already a lot.

    NOT for a sequel, bub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    I think the only thing that bugs me about character additions for the Dissidia game was that Kitase teased about putting Sora into a sequel if they ever decide to make one, and I guess my inner fanboy kinda feels that's not cool since I consider KH completely separate from the FF series (the cameos are just cameos and hardly hold much weight in the plot) especially if he gets added over other popular FF character spin-off titles like Ramza, Zack, Paine, or the Chronicles races. The annoying thing is that if they do decide to make sequels its probably going to be inevitable unless there is some fan outcry.
    Okay this is a REALLY late response, but god damn if they really exclude Ramza from the next Dissidia or whatever then I'm going to be extremely upset.

    I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this already, but it would be cool if we could have an "Outward Cosmos" or whatever next time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    Besides, Jecht is like one of the few really awesome characters in X and needs more screen time, no one likes Seymour
    ^ This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalin View Post
    "Outward Cosmos".
    I don't think I've played enough of the game. Was there an "Inward Cosmos?" Does she have a "true form?" Or does this phrase mean you'd like to be playable or fightable? Or maybe by "out" you mean you'd like her to admit she's lesbian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    I don't think I've played enough of the game. Was there an "Inward Cosmos?" Does she have a "true form?" Or does this phrase mean you'd like to be playable or fightable? Or maybe by "out" you mean you'd like her to admit she's lesbian?
    No haha. In Dissidia there's this sort of "bonus" story mode thing called Inward Chaos. Basically, it's just a kind of "super mode" where you fight the level 100~ish versions of every character in the game, and finally a level 110 Chaos at the end.

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    So what would be this "Outward Cosmos?" Wait. Never mind. Seeing what IC is I don't want to know what the OC would be. lol.

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    While I think that most characters were chosen wisely for this game, I knid of can't get why they chose CoD over Xande. From what I remember, she was a force, not an evil being, which was to bring everything to the void due to the lack of balance in nature caused by Xande. She's pretty much the Necron of FFIII, so not a person with evil intent, but a force of nature (or somehow beyond nature). If they chose her, they might as well have gone with Zeromus, Jenova, Necron and Yu Yevon.
    Anyhoo, Ultimecia is a lot more logical joice than that. While Seifer was Squall's rival, he was just being manipulated, but not, let's say, "world-threatening" (I always saw him as a Kain of FFVIII), while Ultimecia is the one controlling everything. And we actually get to know her pretty early in the game, considering she was possessing Edea, so we don't really see Edea until she becomes Matron again. Ultimecia is a good choice, then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercen-X View Post
    Miss Darkness was chosen specifically as a nod to the fact that ultimately Ultimecia was merely a fusion of Darkness and Palamecia.

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