The Princess and the Frog

[rubah]

Gorgeous.

I love voudoun culture, cajun culture, etc etc etc, and I love shadow puppets, neon colors, fireflies!

The villain is a stick person like 90% of all cartoon villains. I'm super bored with the overused flimsy, stretchy villain look.

That's just how <a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=baron%20samedi&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi">Bawon</a> is supposed to look. <a href="http://www.snowy-day.net/pictures/things/samedi.jpg">Look!</a>. Don't blame them because they finally used it to the right purpose this time.

The thing that bothered me the most about Tiana being a frog the whole time was how lame Disney's lady frogs look xD

I wish they would've been a little more exotic with their Cajun name-dropping, but I guess it would've gone over everyone's heads who doesn't dig that sort of thing, so xD

Also, I looooooooooooooooooooooooooved the... Henri Matisse? style of the restuarant dreaming scene. So gorgeous

Also, I could eat Charlotte right up. ahahahahah

[Marshall Banana]

<img src="http://s107.photobucket.com/albums/m285/fofonda/disney/witchdoctor.jpg" alt="Blegh! Look at his hands, though." />

SKELETON MAN, YOU MIGHT AS WELL TAKE OFF THAT SKIN. There's, clearly, nothing beneath it!

I know I'm nitpicking, but he reminds me too much of Yzma and others to be forgiving of his anorexia.

[rubah]

B-but.. he is a skeleton

[BG-57]

Saw it and liked it. It's a fun enjoyable little film, nothing more or less. I like traditional 2D animation, so it looked great.

[Slothy]

Why? <img src="http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m285/fofonda/pixel/usagi/p-usamera.gif" />

1. The animation sucks - as if frames are missing. So clumsy looking.
2. I can't remember a single song, save for the witch doctor's song.
3. The villain is a stick person like 90% of all cartoon villains. I'm super bored with the overused flimsy, stretchy villain look.
4. Nearly every character just regurgitates a stereotype, because good Disney characters are things of the past, I guess.
5. Tiana is a frog during the whole darn movie.
6. The pace is SUPERSONIC in speed (the froggies are in love in, like, five minutes).
7. Frog romance does not float my boat.
8. Predictable.

1. The animation looked great to me. Not sure what you mean by frames missing because I saw no problems with it.
2. I can't remember a single song from any Disney movie I saw only once, and many of them I haven't seen in years I can only recall a line or two of. I remember about as much as I'd expect to remember hearing the songs once each, but they were all great if you ask me. I love big band jazz stuff like that.
3. I agree with Rubah, that's how the Shadow Man should look given the inspiration for his design.
4. There's a difference between regurgitating stereotypes and just having accents that are indicative of the region and the period. Some of the supporting cast were a bit stereotypical but none of the main cast came off as obvious stereotypes to me. Ray maybe, but he was also the most entertaining character in the whole movie so I can live with it. In other words, it's pretty par for the course in a Disney movie.
5. If you didn't see that coming from the previews then it's your own fault for being so oblivious. I liked it that way since it was a nice twist on the original story.
6. The pace is fast just like any Disney movie, but they didn't fall in love in five minutes. It took half the movie for the Prince to realize he had feelings for Tiana and a lot longer before she realized she was in love too.
7. Personal taste comes into play there. I fail to see how frog romance is inherently any worse than dogs, cats, or any other anthropmorphized animals they've had in previous movies.
8. Complaining that a Disney movie is predictable is like going to a beach and complaining that you got sand in your shoes. You know you're going to get sand in your shoes before you ever get to the beach, just like we all know the prince and princess will fall in love and live happily ever after.

I saw the movie last night and loved it. It was fun and funny throughout with some great animation and music. Everything I could have asked for from a 2D Disney film.

[Marshall Banana]

Why? <img src="http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m285/fofonda/pixel/usagi/p-usamera.gif" />

1. The animation sucks - as if frames are missing. So clumsy looking.
2. I can't remember a single song, save for the witch doctor's song.
3. The villain is a stick person like 90% of all cartoon villains. I'm super bored with the overused flimsy, stretchy villain look.
4. Nearly every character just regurgitates a stereotype, because good Disney characters are things of the past, I guess.
5. Tiana is a frog during the whole darn movie.
6. The pace is SUPERSONIC in speed (the froggies are in love in, like, five minutes).
7. Frog romance does not float my boat.
8. Predictable.

1. The animation looked great to me. Not sure what you mean by frames missing because I saw no problems with it.
2. I can't remember a single song from any Disney movie I saw only once, and many of them I haven't seen in years I can only recall a line or two of. I remember about as much as I'd expect to remember hearing the songs once each, but they were all great if you ask me. I love big band jazz stuff like that.
3. I agree with Rubah, that's how the Shadow Man should look given the inspiration for his design.
4. There's a difference between regurgitating stereotypes and just having accents that are indicative of the region and the period. Some of the supporting cast were a bit stereotypical but none of the main cast came off as obvious stereotypes to me. Ray maybe, but he was also the most entertaining character in the whole movie so I can live with it. In other words, it's pretty par for the course in a Disney movie.
5. If you didn't see that coming from the previews then it's your own fault for being so oblivious. I liked it that way since it was a nice twist on the original story.
6. The pace is fast just like any Disney movie, but they didn't fall in love in five minutes. It took half the movie for the Prince to realize he had feelings for Tiana and a lot longer before she realized she was in love too.
7. Personal taste comes into play there. I fail to see how frog romance is inherently any worse than dogs, cats, or any other anthropmorphized animals they've had in previous movies.
8. Complaining that a Disney movie is predictable is like going to a beach and complaining that you got sand in your shoes. You know you're going to get sand in your shoes before you ever get to the beach, just like we all know the prince and princess will fall in love and live happily ever after.

I saw the movie last night and loved it. It was fun and funny throughout with some great animation and music. Everything I could have asked for from a 2D Disney film.

I feared, long ago, that Tiana would be a frog for the duration of her own princess movie. <a href="http://forums.eyesonff.com/2726749-post3.html" target="_blank">I said it in a previous thread</a>, because, yeah, that's the impression the trailers gave me. Still, that doesn't mean I have to like it! You're the second person who's said that I "didn't pay attention to the trailers" like it means something. Also, my favorite Disney love stories are those of The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast. I'm not into lion love, cat love, or doggie love. It's cute, but humanxhuman or semi-humanxhuman is much more enjoyable.

Also, I'm not talking about the accents, and I'm not talking about Tiana or Naveen (I actually really like Naveen). The hillbillies in the swamp made me gag. So did the blonde girl and her daddy. So did the old lady.

And of course I knew that the prince and "princess" would fall in love! That's what I wanted! That's the Disney thing! As is the main girl's dream coming true. Still, I don't think I'd call any Disney movie as predictable as this one - except maybe The Emperor's New Groove. In fact, TPatF and TENG are very similar.

By the way, these are just my opinions, guys, and I'm not trying to make you agree with them.

[Slothy]

By no means am I saying you have to agree with me. I was just stating my feelings in response to your original points. But I will say that it seemed you were complaining about Tiana being a frog for most of the movie as if you didn't see it coming. If you did, fine; you don't have to like it anyway.

And let's be totally honest here, this movie was no more predictable than any Disney movie ever. I didn't know exactly what would happen in any of them including this one the first time, but none of them exactly floored me with any shocking plot twists. If anything, this one surprised me a little more than some of the others when (SPOILER)Ray died. I'm used to seeing the villain bite it in the end, but there aren't many films where one of the good guys, let alone one of the more likable characters in the film eats it.

Also, as far as the hillbillies and the friend and her father being stereotypes; yes they are. They're also a small portion of the entire cast and quite funny as well. And let's face it, people like that not only existed during the time period the movie is set in, but still exist to certain extents today. And I fail to see why you think including some stereotypical characters who get little to no development in some way indicates the movie doesn't have good characters. The main cast were all great and developed quite well.

[rubah]

On second watch, I still adored Lottie. If anything, I'd probably need to be the prince[ss] she'd need to marry, because I would hang on her every word. Yes, dear, let me give you a puppy!

the hillbillies cracked me up too. I've known some people who pretty much talked just like Two-Fingers, although slightly less gesturing.

And Ray





I think my favorite song after Dr. Facilier's is Ma Belle Evangeline

Also, this time, I stayed to watch the ending credits. <333 the wax-resist art :] So cute

things ehh
I didn't care for how disney reused a lot of the character designs, such as the alligator, the halfwit son, etc.
Tiana always going on about work. Okay, let's do a little smoother job on characterizing her
Maybe they should reconsider how they draw their female frogs. It seemed.. strange? But I did love when she'd just randomly hop off screen xD
"Mardi Gras! Mardi Gras! Mardi Gras!!!!!!!! YES LET'S RANDOMLY SHOUT OUT THE NAME OF THIS HOLIDAY"
And it took entirely too long before they named a cajun dish that wasn't gumbo. Did I say that before? I forget. Anyways!

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

I thought the animation and parallax were beautiful, although some scenes were entirely carried away with ill-fitting rotational effects and CG.

I appreciated the unspoken commentary of Charlotte embodying the insufferable young girl obsessed with Princess merchandising and imagery, whereas the more sensible heroine didn't go in for that tripe.

I was very pleased when I first heard John Goodman's character. His voice just boomed in suddenly, as if to say, "Hi, I'm John Goodman! I'm going to be in this movie." And I thought, "<i>Yes. Okay, John Goodman</i>."

Ray's character arc was almost physically painful to see conclude, just because it was treated with more dramatic weight than any other event in the film, while being simple to see coming about a half-hour away.

The Evangeline song was the best in the film, and one of the few Disney songs I think might work just as well outside its narrative context.

Dr. Facilier has immediately become my favorite Disney villain ever. He is a joy to watch move, talk, scheme, sing, stare daggers into the eyes of lesser men, and cast fluorescent voodoo lights on all that surrounds him. He completely makes the film, and its main and most obvious failing is that it doesn't have at least fifteen less minutes spent on slapstick and gumbo in the bayou and at least fifteen more minutes of Shadow Man.

[Rostum]

The main reason I want to see this is because of the animation.

After so many years, Disney have finally gone back to their roots to do beautiful hand-drawn animation. I was hoping they'd reach their peak of animation genius, talent and skill in this as they did in 'Lady and the Tramp'.

[Shlup]

I did not think I would like this movie much for the following reasons:
1) New Orleans is stupid.
2) I have "issues" with frogs.
3) I was disappointed the film was set in 20th century America, rather than a long time ago in a kingdom far away.
3) I only watched the teaser trailer, which did not endear me to Tiana.
4) This is hideous.

That said, I LOVED IT.

The animation was beautiful and Tiana was adorable, not annoying at all, and I think they pulled off the "princess" thing very well. The prince was actually entertaining. And Tiana had a human friend, who was awful and fabulous at the same time. I :<3:'d her.

I liked the songs just fine. I think the problem is that the main songs were a bit too preachy. The whole "work hard" song was cute, but I miss pointless gooey like "Part of Your World." Then again, "Reflection" was really good. Maybe it just needed more oomph.

Oh, and when I saw Lottie's room I shat. We were the only people in the theater so I squealed pretty damn loud. I want that whole house and I want it now.

Summary: It's not one of my favorites, mostly due to the setting and the frogs, but I did like it a lot.

[Miriel]

I just watched it.

It was enjoyable. But nothing great. The whole time I kept wondering if I'm just too old to be swept up in animated Disney films anymore. And then I'd remember last year's UP where the love story was all of 10 minutes and it left me weeping and wanting to hold on tight to the people I love and never let them go. If Pixar can create compelling and moving stories, Disney should be able to as well.

There should be a whole movie dedicated to Charlotte, she was amaaazing. Loved every single bit of screen time she had. Loved Ray too. I thought his romance with Evangeline was so sweet, I've always loved stories like that for some reason. Unoriginal for sure, but I was glad he got his happy ending. It was definitely predictable and I felt like they were trying a little too hard to go back to classic Disney stuff instead of being innovative and pushing forward with their animated films. But I wasn't expecting it to be great so it's not like I was disappointed. I bet little kids would still love the movie.

[Rye]

It was enjoyable. But nothing great. The whole time I kept wondering if I'm just too old to be swept up in animated Disney films anymore. And then I'd remember last year's UP where the love story was all of 10 minutes and it left me weeping and wanting to hold on tight to the people I love and never let them go. If Pixar can create compelling and moving stories, Disney should be able to as well.

Same here. Up was just like... oh my god. When Hux and I went to see it in the theatre, it was just us and two or three small families with children. We were crying the hardest of all, and I think the parents were crying too. I think UP was a bit lost on the children - it's definitely a movie for adults who like animation, in my opinion. Hux was reading that over my shoulder and said that UP is a movie for adults who like anything.

[Shlup]

Still refusing to watch Up over here.

[Miriel]

Still refusing to watch Up over here.

Whyyyy?? I loved it! Not as much as Wall.E but the 4 minute "Married Life" montage at the beginning of the film was one of the most poignant things I've ever seen on film. You'd love it, even though it'll kinda break your heart.

Here, if you won't watch the whole film, at least watch the montage!

Up "Married Life" Montage on Vimeo