This game is so overrated.

[Sephex]

How about each of you play the games you like and enjoy for what it is?
This is like the next gen consoles discussion.

Actually, pointless debates such as these have always existed in video game discussions. Most gamers aren't intelligent enough to comprehend simply enjoying the games they like and ignoring the games they don't. The internet has only worsened this mindset.

[Darth Cid]

Your argument is that VII is too hyped up. It seems like you're trying to take that hype and give it to IX. If you want to prove to me that VII is too hyped up, which you really don't need to but for arguments sake, reference other games in the series, not just one. You're playing favoritism while arguing with people for playing favoritism.

Reminds me of a much younger me.

[the_sandman]

Actually, pointless debates such as these have always existed in video game discussions. Most gamers aren't intelligent enough to comprehend simply enjoying the games they like and ignoring the games they don't. The internet has only worsened this mindset.

How about I play both the games that I like which is VII and IX, and talk about how one is overrated and the other is underrated? There are some people in here who doesn't believe that VII isn't hyped up. Now, indicating whether a game is hyped up or not isn't an opinion, it's a fact. You know when a game is hyped up. Final Fantasy VII and X are both hyped up. Other games like Metal Gear Solid series are hyped up (and for good reasons) and same with Devil may cry. But I've never EVER seen a game more hyped up then VII. How come I've got to see Cloud Strife cosplayers everywhere on the internet?(Lol, I have a feeling that theres gonna be one person who can't take an exaggeration come in here like "You're lying...Cloud cosplayers aren't EVERYWHERE on the internet) How come I automatically know who the strongest villain is in Kingdom Hearts III? How come I have a feeling that Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, and Advent Children are not going to be the only FFVII add-ons (because it probably isn't and theres probably a movie or a game that I left out). I don't know if they're releasing some next gen version of VII or a sequel or something, but why am I not surprised if they would? How does an optional character in VII overshadow so many characters in any FF series (as if they pick out any cool looking characters and just hype him up, and there are some people who think Cloud looks cool too...wow)?

[Sephex]

Actually, pointless debates such as these have always existed in video game discussions. Most gamers aren't intelligent enough to comprehend simply enjoying the games they like and ignoring the games they don't. The internet has only worsened this mindset.

How about I play both the games that I like which is VII and IX, and talk about how one is overrated and the other is underrated? There are some people in here who doesn't believe that VII isn't hyped up. Now, indicating whether a game is hyped up or not isn't an opinion, it's a fact. You know when a game is hyped up. Final Fantasy VII and X are both hyped up. Other games like Metal Gear Solid series are hyped up (and for good reasons) and same with Devil may cry. But I've never EVER seen a game more hyped up then VII. How come I've got to see Cloud Strife cosplayers everywhere on the internet?(Lol, I have a feeling that theres gonna be one person who can't take an exaggeration come in here like "You're lying...Cloud cosplayers aren't EVERYWHERE on the internet) How come I automatically know who the strongest villain is in Kingdom Hearts III? How come I have a feeling that Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, and Advent Children are not going to be the only FFVII add-ons (because it probably isn't and theres probably a movie or a game that I left out). I don't know if they're releasing some next gen version of VII or a sequel or something, but why am I not surprised if they would? How does an optional character in VII overshadow so many characters in any FF series (as if they pick out any cool looking characters and just hype him up, and there are some people who think Cloud looks cool too...wow)?

Dude, relax. Why is this such a big deal? No one is saying that you can't have your opinion. But when you share said opinion, why is it a big deal that they don't agree with it?

For example: I don't really care for cars. I don't see the big deal about sports cars, tricking them out, etc. However, I am not going to walk into a garage or post somewhere why I don't see the big deal because I know I will be called out. I know that I am not going to change their opinion. And I don't care. There are much more important things in my life than something like that.

[the_sandman]

Actually, pointless debates such as these have always existed in video game discussions. Most gamers aren't intelligent enough to comprehend simply enjoying the games they like and ignoring the games they don't. The internet has only worsened this mindset.

How about I play both the games that I like which is VII and IX, and talk about how one is overrated and the other is underrated? There are some people in here who doesn't believe that VII isn't hyped up. Now, indicating whether a game is hyped up or not isn't an opinion, it's a fact. You know when a game is hyped up. Final Fantasy VII and X are both hyped up. Other games like Metal Gear Solid series are hyped up (and for good reasons) and same with Devil may cry. But I've never EVER seen a game more hyped up then VII. How come I've got to see Cloud Strife cosplayers everywhere on the internet?(Lol, I have a feeling that theres gonna be one person who can't take an exaggeration come in here like "You're lying...Cloud cosplayers aren't EVERYWHERE on the internet) How come I automatically know who the strongest villain is in Kingdom Hearts III? How come I have a feeling that Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, and Advent Children are not going to be the only FFVII add-ons (because it probably isn't and theres probably a movie or a game that I left out). I don't know if they're releasing some next gen version of VII or a sequel or something, but why am I not surprised if they would? How does an optional character in VII overshadow so many characters in any FF series (as if they pick out any cool looking characters and just hype him up, and there are some people who think Cloud looks cool too...wow)?

Dude, relax. Why is this such a big deal? No one is saying that you can't have your opinion. But when you share said opinion, why is it a big deal that they don't agree with it?

For example: I don't really care for cars. I don't see the big deal about sports cars, tricking them out, etc. However, I am not going to walk into a garage or post somewhere why I don't see the big deal because I know I will be called out. I know that I am not going to change their opinion. And I don't care. There are much more important things in my life than something like that.

Yeah, how about we leave all that in the real world and continue with this debate/argument or whatever you want to call it about Final Fantasy in a Final Fantasy forum. If we can't have this discussion in a FF forum then where else could we have it? Let's pretend that that's what FF forums are for (sarcasm) and just continue.

[G13]

Your argument is that VII is too hyped up. It seems like you're trying to take that hype and give it to IX. If you want to prove to me that VII is too hyped up, which you really don't need to but for arguments sake, reference other games in the series, not just one. You're playing favoritism while arguing with people for playing favoritism.

Reminds me of a much younger me.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[Sephex]

Actually, pointless debates such as these have always existed in video game discussions. Most gamers aren't intelligent enough to comprehend simply enjoying the games they like and ignoring the games they don't. The internet has only worsened this mindset.

How about I play both the games that I like which is VII and IX, and talk about how one is overrated and the other is underrated? There are some people in here who doesn't believe that VII isn't hyped up. Now, indicating whether a game is hyped up or not isn't an opinion, it's a fact. You know when a game is hyped up. Final Fantasy VII and X are both hyped up. Other games like Metal Gear Solid series are hyped up (and for good reasons) and same with Devil may cry. But I've never EVER seen a game more hyped up then VII. How come I've got to see Cloud Strife cosplayers everywhere on the internet?(Lol, I have a feeling that theres gonna be one person who can't take an exaggeration come in here like "You're lying...Cloud cosplayers aren't EVERYWHERE on the internet) How come I automatically know who the strongest villain is in Kingdom Hearts III? How come I have a feeling that Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, and Advent Children are not going to be the only FFVII add-ons (because it probably isn't and theres probably a movie or a game that I left out). I don't know if they're releasing some next gen version of VII or a sequel or something, but why am I not surprised if they would? How does an optional character in VII overshadow so many characters in any FF series (as if they pick out any cool looking characters and just hype him up, and there are some people who think Cloud looks cool too...wow)?

Dude, relax. Why is this such a big deal? No one is saying that you can't have your opinion. But when you share said opinion, why is it a big deal that they don't agree with it?

For example: I don't really care for cars. I don't see the big deal about sports cars, tricking them out, etc. However, I am not going to walk into a garage or post somewhere why I don't see the big deal because I know I will be called out. I know that I am not going to change their opinion. And I don't care. There are much more important things in my life than something like that.

Yeah, how about we leave all that in the real world and continue with this debate/argument or whatever you want to call it about Final Fantasy in a Final Fantasy forum. If we can't have this discussion in a FF forum then where else could we have it? Let's pretend that that's what FF forums are for (sarcasm) and just continue.

I WAS FROZEN TODAY!

[G13]

[Darth Cid]

Actually, pointless debates such as these have always existed in video game discussions. Most gamers aren't intelligent enough to comprehend simply enjoying the games they like and ignoring the games they don't. The internet has only worsened this mindset.

How about I play both the games that I like which is VII and IX, and talk about how one is overrated and the other is underrated? There are some people in here who doesn't believe that VII isn't hyped up. Now, indicating whether a game is hyped up or not isn't an opinion, it's a fact. You know when a game is hyped up. Final Fantasy VII and X are both hyped up. Other games like Metal Gear Solid series are hyped up (and for good reasons) and same with Devil may cry. But I've never EVER seen a game more hyped up then VII. How come I've got to see Cloud Strife cosplayers everywhere on the internet?(Lol, I have a feeling that theres gonna be one person who can't take an exaggeration come in here like "You're lying...Cloud cosplayers aren't EVERYWHERE on the internet) How come I automatically know who the strongest villain is in Kingdom Hearts III? How come I have a feeling that Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, and Advent Children are not going to be the only FFVII add-ons (because it probably isn't and theres probably a movie or a game that I left out). I don't know if they're releasing some next gen version of VII or a sequel or something, but why am I not surprised if they would? How does an optional character in VII overshadow so many characters in any FF series (as if they pick out any cool looking characters and just hype him up, and there are some people who think Cloud looks cool too...wow)?

Dude, relax. Why is this such a big deal? No one is saying that you can't have your opinion. But when you share said opinion, why is it a big deal that they don't agree with it?

For example: I don't really care for cars. I don't see the big deal about sports cars, tricking them out, etc. However, I am not going to walk into a garage or post somewhere why I don't see the big deal because I know I will be called out. I know that I am not going to change their opinion. And I don't care. There are much more important things in my life than something like that.

Yeah, how about we leave all that in the real world and continue with this debate/argument or whatever you want to call it about Final Fantasy in a Final Fantasy forum. If we can't have this discussion in a FF forum then where else could we have it? Let's pretend that that's what FF forums are for (sarcasm) and just continue.

I WAS FROZEN TODAY!

That Guy With The Glasses fan?

[Sephex]

Yeah, it looked like it worked.

[G13]

*Applauds Sephex*

[Big D]

The characters weren't used very effectively. The story revolved around 3 characters. Cloud, Tifa, and Aeries (even after her death). The rest were ignored.

In my opinion, FFVII's one of the only FFs that gave all the lead characters the attention they deserved. Every playable character gets their moment in the spotlight, usually focussing on their back-story and their reasons for fighting for the world. The other games, especially the later ones, are horrid for their neglect of any characters aside from the main hero and heroine. FFX, for instance - Auron and Lulu, despite being two fantastic and deep characters, are sidelined almost from the outset. FFIX, similarly, is one of the very worst offenders, for its utter callousness toward Amarant and Freya, who deserved vastly greater screentime and plot relevance than they were actually given.

FFVII's almost unique in the way its characters fot their chance to shine, even optional heroes like Yuffie and Vincent. Compared to this ensemble, most of the main characters from the later games feel entirely tacked-on.

:edit: also, I should've read the entire (god-awful) thread before replying because then I, too, would have noticed that CHRIST! SEPHEX WAS FROZEN TODAY! just like Christopher Lloyd.

[MJN SEIFER]

Being Overated is so Underated.

I appreciate the OP's opinion, not everyone likes FFVII just like not everyone likes FFVIII even in my opinion they where the best. Obviously I liked FFVII best, but that was before it was even overated - I just love FFVII for what it is, the game really touched me as a game and a story. It would be the same if it was underated.

[ANGRYWOLF]

Because Auron was with Jecht they couldn't say much about his past without doing a spoiler. Because Lulu had been a guardian on a previous pilgrimage they had to keep some of her past secret as well.

I hope the TC realizes he can like the FFs he likes and dislike others, other people can like what they like and leave it at that.

[arcanedude34]

I think VII is both overrated and underrated. There are those who play FFVII and on who think it's THE Final Fantasy and yadda yadda. Those people overrate it. But then there are the people who feel the need to whine about the first group (which, if you notice, barely anybody anymore is a complete gibberish-speaking FFVII fanboy. Most have moved on to Guitar Hero or Halo or Madden or whatnot) who say it's the WORST game in the world. It's not.

That is to say, if it's your favorite FF, and you have reasoning behind it (aside from LOL WOW TEH SEPHIRTOAST!!!) then your opinion is valid and respectable. If it's your least favorite (aside from WTF, FANBOIS RAAAHHHH NERDRAGE!!!) then your opinion is valid and respectable.

My opinion of FFVII? I like it. It's a good game, I like the characters, the setting. I even like the art style (FFIX has a cartoony art style? HA!) but it's not the end-all be-all game.