I've never understood how Tidus is whiny. In fact I found him quite the opposite. If I woke up 1000 years in the future I'd freak the hell out.
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not great like Cloud or Squall but ok...
I wish he had been more dynamic though...
I have absolutely no idea how Tidus can be called whiny. As a child, his father was very abusive, being neglectful and not offering anything remotely approaching positive regard, nevermind unconditionally so. And yet as a teenager he is an optimistic, upbeat, hugely successful superstar. The most famous living person in his world, probably.
Then, when he is torn from all that, does he collapse into a blubbering mess? No - he makes his way around a dangerous, ancient ruin, fights some monsters and successfully evades something that could swallow him whole, gets a fire going, and is trying to figure out how to get some food. Then he is kept on a cold, wet metal deck by people who don't even speak the same language as him (and the one who does seems to have marginal influence), which is attacked AGAIN by the massive world-ending thing.
Thoughout the whole game, with what, one or two exceptions, Tidus is relentlessly upbeat, optimistic, and a hell of a lot closer to Sephex's macro than whiny. Most of the time the very worst of his "whining" is "this sucks but Hey guys we can do it! Let's GO!" The height of his 'selfishness' is wanting to go home and he pretty easily accepts that if it's going to happen, it's a long way in the future. The only time he actually cries is when he's confronting his dad, a man who raised him with neglect and abuse and then disappeared, leaving his mom to raise him alone until she died of despair after which point he was an orphan at what, age 8?
Obv. it's a matter of taste and feeling but one criticism which does not stand up to scrutiny is that he's whiny.
I agree with MILF, but Tidus' voice got on my nerves. XD
That's not that impressive. Wakka and Kimahri did, too.
That said, I like him, as well. Until Lightning came along, he was my favorite FF protagonist, bar none, with Terra right behind him. As has been said, his mostly-cheery nature was refreshing after suffering through Cloud and Squall. (Sorry. Wasn't a fan of either of them. Hence why I said "suffering" through them.) And I thought his romance with Yuna was one of the best, sweetest romances ever attempted in a Final Fantasy game.
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The answer is simple: Some people just find certain traits and actions irritating. Personally, I did find Tidus somewhat annoying. On the other hand, though, I could also see why (given his backstory) he does some of the things that he does.
Because he is whiny and annoying.
Actually here's a simpler answer: because we have functioning ears.
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Well, the term "emo" is really not used to describe someone who is "emotional." It is used to describe someone who is "emotionally hardcore." This belies a sense of indifference or apathy in a person or character while they are honestly struggling with stress and tearing memories in the heart. An emo expresses personality and emotion through physical behavior and dress-style and often the music they listen to. Tidus just sort of puts his heart on display.
key terminology here: "Bad-Ass".
He's Flash Gordon.Tidus is already a "Bad-Ass" in his own world since the beginning of the game. He is the guy who enters in a stadium and thousands of people go wild. He is the biggest blitzball star player of Zanarkand which is perhaps the equivalent of Lionel Messi in today's soccer.
Herein lies the difficulty in accepting Tidus. No one wants to relate to an awkward teen whose been thrust into a situation in which it is a little more than questionable he'll be able to preservere let alone survive. No one wants to pretend to be that dorky teen that doesn't think. People want to fantasize about life in a world where they are the bad-ass hero who seemingly faces all of their problems in a sort of stride with not much more than a blink or a smirk to clarify their emotional standpoint.People say he is stupid when in fact he is just akward. Today we travel to another country and we feel like aliens,can you imagine being in his position? I love the fact that he doesn't think of things too much.
I think mostly people tend to miss the fact that most characters in the game beside the main character... hate him or dislike him to some extent (or feel they have to change him) because of his bad-ass indifference or apathy. Or maybe they can better relate to him because of this. I know that while I was playing Final Fantasy VII, I related to Cloud easily because I often felt misunderstood and closed off and at times wondered who I was. It was a little jarring to find out that Cloud lost his friend Zack who was like a brother. From the pics I've seen of my baby brother, I'd always imagined him to have blonde hair, so the subplot of Cloud and Zack's past basically mirrored my life after losing my brother.
I reckon Mercen-X might be on to something there. All people want is a stoic 'badass' of a very rigid and traditional style.
It's a little more difficult, for whatever reason, to play the role of a hero while being lighthearted and carefree (and a little goofy)... it's just hard to envision how it properly meshes with the confidence and preserverence of the "heroic champion" stereotype.
Saving the world is serious business after all. Tidus' personality is generally reserved more for plucky comedy relief instead of the great hero. In fact, his personality most matches Rikku's, who is plucky comedy relief.