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    Default Will FF13 outsell FF7

    I read where FF13 sold 1.5 million copies (or units as they put it) in just four days. How does this compare to the amount of copies sold for FF7 when it was first released.

    This may end up being the best selling Final Fantasy game to date.

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    FFVII sold 2.3 million in it's first three days in Japan according to wikipedia. I can't see FFXIII touching the overall worldwide sales figure that FFVII set when it's all said and done. Even FFX and FFXII only managed a bit more than half I believe while being on the most popular home console ever.

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    I dun know. It is a battle between Cloud and Cloud with boobs.

    It is pretty hard to determine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christmas View Post
    I dun know. It is a battle between Cloud and Cloud with boobs.
    The problem is that FF7 had Cloud and Cloud with boobs, and so therefore is doubly tough to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    The problem is that FF7 had Cloud and Cloud with boobs, and so therefore is doubly tough to beat.
    Touche.

    Am I correct in remembering FFVII came out relativity early in the PSOne's life-cycle? I would imagine the current install base of PS3/360s is greater than that of the install base of PSOnes at the time. If we go by that then FFXIII should be able to win just because the market for video games has grown significantly in the last decade. Though I suspect the FFVII advertising campaign was much larger than what they have planned for FFXIII.

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    FF7 was released in 1997, about midway between the PS1 and PS2 releases. And you're right that today there is a bigger market for games, but I think the FF7 period was a highpoint for interest in Final Fantasy in particular.

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    Oh man can we please not bring sales talk into EoFF, this is like the last place on the web where we truly don't care.

    That said, only time will tell. The market is undoubtedly bigger, but that market buys games like Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty, not Blue Dragon and Valkyria Chronicles. But FFVII is a big blockbuster and always does huge in America, so we really have to wait and see.

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    In it's first week in Japan, Final Fantasy XIII managed to sell over 1.5 million copies, and further more was able to push almost 250,000 PS3s. This means that about one third of all PS3 owners have Final Fantasy XIII. This number will probably increase over the next few weeks to over half.

    While 1.5 million is not quite as high as the first week sales for Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy XII, their launch was at a time when PS2 sales were much higher.

    For example, FFX launched when the PS2 sales were at around 5.5 million, making it's launch attach rate around 34.5%. FFXIII on the other hand launched with PS3 sales at around 4.1 million (~4.3 million now that FFXIII has launched), which means it's attach rate is around 34.8, which is essentially the same as for FFX. Final Fantasy X had a huge drop in it's second week sales going from 1.9 million, to just 0.25 million. It will be interesting to see how much of a drop FFXIII has, considering the fewer PS3s sold in Japan right now, FFXIII could have pretty good legs down the road, and could eventually catch up to FFX and FFXII.
    Source: Examiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
    Oh man can we please not bring sales talk into EoFF, this is like the last place on the web where we truly don't care.
    There is such a thing as not posting in the thread if you don't care. If the dude wants to have a discussion about FFXIII's sales then he's entitled to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi22 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
    Oh man can we please not bring sales talk into EoFF, this is like the last place on the web where we truly don't care.
    There is such a thing as not posting in the thread if you don't care. If the dude wants to have a discussion about FFXIII's sales then he's entitled to.
    Well my post was supposed to be a little ironic because I jumped into the discussion afterwards...

    Although I really belive that the recent introduction of industry-talk into video games discussion is diluting our dialogue and undermining what's really important to us as gamers. It's an opinion I have, and I'm sharing it in a discussion thread about it. I think that's about as germaine as it gets.

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    Default well sales projections are a part of it..

    I think it will in time outsell FFVII.
    A FFVII remake though would outsell any previous FF.


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    I think the real question is less about how many units are available to play the game as much as its more about whether FF is still relevant to today's market. As Bolivar kinda pointed out, RPGs don't really seem to be drawing the same level of fandom on next-gen consoles as they did in previous console generations.

    I don't think it will sell very well unless SE really tries to pull out a VII style PR campaign (which signs are showing they really are not trying) to get the numbers they need. I still feel that FF no longer has the pull it did ten years ago, while still a milestone series I don't think it will make the numbers VII did unless SE can convince the consumer market that XIII will be another Gaming Revolution and something you don't want to miss much like VII did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno View Post
    I still feel that FF no longer has the pull it did ten years ago, while still a milestone series I don't think it will make the numbers VII did unless SE can convince the consumer market that XIII will be another Gaming Revolution and something you don't want to miss much like VII did.
    This is largely why I think FFVII did so well. At the time we had literally never seen anything like it and it, along with it's marketing really did seem to sell not only it, but the RPG genre as no longer being about stat sheets and only for the hardcore nerds. That combined with coming out when 3D was still new on a console that was a runaway success compared to it's competitors probably drew in a lot of people who had never given RPG's a shake before.

    It did certainly cause the market and RPG popularity to explode, and FF has largely done very well since. Even the 5 million+ sales of more recent FF's are more than respectable, but the boom that FFVII had for seeming like a graphical and gaming revolution will probably never be seen again in the genre without something as revolutionary as the jump from 2D to 3D.

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    You know what else they did right? They knew their audience. I remember nearly every comic book I picked up at the time had a two page spread for either Final Fantasy VII or Final Fantasy Tactics.

    Nowadays, the execs at Square Enix think getting Leona Lewis on the game will broaden their audience. That's a facepalm and a half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolivar View Post
    You know what else they did right? They knew their audience. I remember nearly every comic book I picked up at the time had a two page spread for either Final Fantasy VII or Final Fantasy Tactics.

    Nowadays, the execs at Square Enix think getting Leona Lewis on the game will broaden their audience. That's a facepalm and a half.
    Actually Bolivar getting a young singer isn't actually that bad. The only stereotype that really holds true is that the vast majority of people who play rpg's are teenagers and people in their early 20's. So getting a singer who those individuals may listen to is a pretty good p.r. move. The comic book statement may of rang true ten or fifteen years ago before video games really took off. But these days gamers are so diversified that you will find people in practically every avenue you look at who likes to play video games.

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