I'm not saying that he has less diversity in limits, it is just one more thing that sets him apart from the other characters. It isn't something that would matter in isolation, it just factors in with everything about him.
Suck as keeping his promise about the Black Materia (I know it wasn't a real "sacrifice" but he could have easily given it to the Shinra at that point, but he didn't) and (presumably single handedly) saving the people of Midgar (including Marlene).
I don't think he would have killed Marlene, I think that was just something Shinra did and he used it when he was found out and sent her to Kalm after.
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He's a hated a character?
I didn't use him much, but I didn't dislike him. I just ended up not using him because he doesn't have any good limit breaks, isn't vital to the story and because by the time he joined the party I had grown attached to the other characters and would use them more.
If anything the series needs more fat moogle dolls!![]()
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
Also how is Cait Sith more out of place than Umaro, Gogo, Gau, Mog, Red XIII, Quina, Kimahri, or Fran
Or, you know, FuSoYa the magic moon man.
Who ever said that Umaro, Gogo, Gau or Mog were out of place? And as for Quina, you can't really say that a strange creature is out of place when the game is crawling (no pun intended) with rat people and other races. Same with Fran, there are several other non-human races running around which makes it all seem pretty normal.
Mind you, I'm not saying the idea of a cat riding a giant moogle doll is out of place at all, though I can see how some would see it as more out of place in VII than similar non-human characters in other games.
For me it was him being a spy and then his FAKE death. I mean the game lays it out like its his moment but three mins later he is back. So yeah it ruined it for me. Plus he just isn't that great in battle. I've never found him good at anything that someone else wasn't better at.
Marcus
"No cloud, no squall shall hinder us!" - FF9
Games completed - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10, 10-2, 12, 13, 13-2, 13-3 Tactics, Tactics Advanced, Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, KH, KH2, And played 11.
Umaro, Gogo, Gau, Mog, Red XIII, Quina, Kimahri, or Fran
I felt all of those were out of place except for Red XIII and Kimahri.
However, Umaro, Gogo & Mog never bothered me (I think) because
a) they were just side characters
b) the difference between them an the game style was a lot less stark. Should they remake this game with updated graphics I think I would take more issue with them.
Quina I hated with a passion, I couldn't wait for every scene he/she was in to end. (I seem to remember it's she, but not sure.)
Fran, and the Vera in general didn't fit the game to me, just a hold over from FFTA they were forced to include. (And probably some T&A to help boost some game sales.)
Had there been no Cosmo Canyon I don't think Red XIII would have bekonged, but by adding such an element into the word it is easy to see his place.
Kimahri didn't really have a lot to add to the story, (I could also argue that no one in FFX did), but I felt stylistically he fit right in with the world of Spira.
I think its just an issue of role playing. Its harder to get into a character your not like at all. While main characters are made to try and fit with a lot of people, or made just to be badass. It just depends on what kind of person you are. You may like Red XIII or the others cause of there character and in the end thats all it is. Another character.
Marcus
"No cloud, no squall shall hinder us!" - FF9
Games completed - 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10, 10-2, 12, 13, 13-2, 13-3 Tactics, Tactics Advanced, Crisis Core, Dirge of Cerberus, KH, KH2, And played 11.
I'd hate to turn this into something more than FFVII, but Quina is one of the most awesome comical reliefs out of the series.
Love Quina!![]()
"... and so I close, realizing that perhaps the ending has not yet been written."
Well, I only played FF6 as a little kid, and I sucked at games back then, so I don't remember any of the characters or story from that...
But RedXIII, Quina, Kimahri, and Fran are all members of a certain species, and have backstory telling why they are in the party.
Cait Sith, however, is a random machine, and there is no reason for why he is a mechanical cat riding a stuffed moogle.