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    Reeve obviously just has good taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raistlin View Post
    Reeve obviously just has good taste.
    When I read this, I thought, "Oh, I am so totally aimkissing to that"


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    I don't know why people think his limit breaks are weak - when you get him, Slot is the most powerful attack in the game and stays there for a long time. People just seem to think that because it can't hit multiple times against enemies who'll die before the second hit anyway, it's useless, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildRaubtier View Post
    I don't know why people think his limit breaks are weak - when you get him, Slot is the most powerful attack in the game and stays there for a long time. People just seem to think that because it can't hit multiple times against enemies who'll die before the second hit anyway, it's useless, I guess.
    ...Well when it comes down to using a guy like Cait Sith, OR someone who can oneshot the entire enemy party, yeah, it seems kind of pointless to use him, especially since their limit breaks aren't really harder to get up, and it's not nearly as random.

    And they don't have a chance of one shotting your own party.

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    I don't see how slots will ever one shot your own party.

    When you get him, your normal limit breaks do around 500? damage. Slots does 300, minimum, and that's only if you're very unlucky. It averages out at ~800 a shot. Being a level 1 limit, you use it a lot more often than everyone else's who're usually around 2 or 3. Fury is even more fun. And it only gets stronger as the game progresses.

    I've never seen or heard of anyone getting instant game over from slots.

    By the time you get toys like Omnislash, etc., you're probably rocking a few Slash-Alls or 4x Cut materia, making uber level 4 limits still irrelevant against anything that isn't named WEAPON.

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    Everyone else's limits all look way cooler.

    Just saying...

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    Do Shin-Ra have Psychologists? If so, they better let them loose on Reeve, who communicates via a stuffed body with a mechanical cat on top that uses a megaphone.


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    More like they should examine every Shinra employee who doesn't communicate via robot cat on a giant moogle.

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    Comparing Reeve to Rufus, Scarlet, Heidegger, Palmer & Hojo he comes out looking like a beacon of sanity.

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    b/c he's an easy target.

    I love setting him up as a "Toysaurus" Job class. Manipulate, with a couple status effects like Transform, and HypnoCrown as his accessory and Cait Sith be rockin'.

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    I've never really had a problem with Cait Sith and oddly I can't fathom how people feel he's out of place in VII's world. He's actually a decent fighter, his ultimate weapon makes him a total powerhouse since its exactly like the Ultima Weapon/Conformer and his Slots have that wonderful exemption rule that allows him to one shot Ruby and Emerald WEAPON.

    I feel he shows a more playful side to Reeve and to the game as a whole, there are a lot of places in the plot that feel a bit off when you stop to think about them and while Cait might be one of them, I never felt he was a game breaker about it. My own personal issues with the plot come from the second disc anyway.

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    cause he's a MOTHER $%^&$^%$$ SLEEZY SON OF $#^#%$^$!! THAT NEEDS TO SUCK A !@#!@#!!!

    no kidding....cause Cloud stole the spotlight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephex View Post
    socially awkward people identify with.
    You mean people that want to be socially awkward. Just so they can look "cool".

    Quote Originally Posted by seiferalmasy2 View Post
    I have an ongoing project to remove this character and replace him with a new one (Skoll Iscarit) that I have made.
    I'm totally confused. You were just giving a speech in the other topic about how you wanted to preserve the original integrity of FF VII with utmost accuracy in this project of yours. Now you're saying you want to completely remove a character and replace it with one of your own, which has absolutely nothing to do with the game [or any Final Fantasy for that matter]. I don't think you're taking this project as seriously as you claim, because this idea sounds a bit ridiculous. Regardless, if you want to remove a character that's useless trash and replace them with one of your own, then take out Yuffie. Unlike Cait Sith, her contribution to the characters and the story = 0/100 as opposed to Cait Sith's 10/100.

    And by the way - I'm not actually suggesting you do that, because as much as I hate the useless bitch named Yuffie, replacing her worthess self with an original character would be equally as ridiculous.

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    For the last time. No. 1 is a personal project to remove Cait. The other is a retranslation.

    2 different projects.

    The Cait replacing project will be placed on top of the retranslation. So, you may have the following combinations:

    1. Retranslation with Cait (you will see me in anotjer post discussing how he has a scottish accent)
    2. retranslation without Cait.

    As for not taking it seriously, I would love to see you spend months trawling through hundreds of thousands of sources and katakana and through program files and hex files and discussions with translators and through pain staking all night sessions with nothing but dictionaries. Hundreds of hours work.... and then say that.

    That is more ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seiferalmasy2 View Post
    For the last time. No. 1 is a personal project to remove Cait. The other is a retranslation.

    2 different projects.
    No don't worry, I'm already aware of this. I just find it hard to believe that you won't mix the two after spending so much time on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by seiferalmasy2 View Post
    As for not taking it seriously, I would love to see you spend months trawling through hundreds of thousands of sources and katakana and through program files and hex files and discussions with translators and through pain staking all night sessions with nothing but dictionaries. Hundreds of hours work.... and then say that.
    College, minus the Katakana part. I think there are other elements of taking something "seriously" aside from just the obvious "putting a lot of work into it".

    Quote Originally Posted by seiferalmasy2 View Post
    1. Retranslation with Cait (you will see me in anotjer post discussing how he has a scottish accent)
    2. retranslation without Cait.
    This is what I meant. Apparently you might be offering a re-translated version of the game without Cait Sith. I understand having a nice properly-translated version of the game [and improved graphics are always welcome], but I don't see the point in tinkering around with the original version beyond those parameters. I'd love to remove half the cast of FF VII and replace it with brand new characters, but then I'm pretty sure everyone would see it as being silly. While we're on this subject, I suggest that you might as well take out Yuffie too. Useless character, useless plot. Replace her with someone else.

    But the fact that you're offering a re-translation without Cait Sith seems contradictory to the policy of making that re-translation. However, as long as you offer a version without messing around with the characters, I suppose I don't have too many complaints. And of course, you are free to do anything you want. It's up to someone else if they choose to download it or not.

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