FF Remake?

[Momiji]

I don't really like the idea of any more remakes. I'd like to see something new and unique from S-E that I wouldn't have to buy a PS3 or PSP for :P

[Vyk]

I'm all for a FFVI remake on par with what they did with IV but its probably too soon for that. They should probably do V first. But its probably the next Kingdom Hearts. Square likes to pretend they're announcing something sometimes when its just them revealing the inevitable

[Wolf Kanno]

A new Chrono game... If there is one IP of Squares from the old days that has had massive fanbases and people whining about remakes and sequels for even longer than FFVII it is easily Chrono Trigger and the Chrono series. Perhaps the DS remake last year was a test run to see how interested people are.

I would also be happy to see them release a translated version of Seiken Denetsu III for DLC. Dissidia 2 or The World Ends With You 2 would be nice as well but I doubt either would be considered "big news"

As for the remakes of FFV, VI, and VII

Though VII would make the largest return, people expect the best of the best and the amount of money that would need to go into making that happen now would be staggering so I am in agreement with Rase that its still unlikely and as NeoCracker has pointed out, we can't give into the fans just yet while we can milk it for more. Personally, I wouldn't mind a VII remake only cause it would shut people up about it...

V and VI would be nice especially if the real major part of the announcement would be them getting a console remake but that is merely fanboy fantasy... Still, despite the article being short, I don't see how a remake of V or VI would be "big news" either especially when compared to a remake of VII. Now if they were going to announce they were remaking all three titles then we would have some serious going on here and I would be happy. Especially if the games got remade on the Dissidia engine (I think a remake of VII should hold onto its anime roots and not go into the crappy AC realism look) I would also be pretty damn happy.

Still, I do feel that SE has a warped sense of reality and what they deem as "big news" is not the same as what fans would deem as "big news". It could simply be them porting KH1 and FFX to the PSP.

[Fynn]

KHIII seems pretty logical. Or rather, I'd like this to be the case...

[RedPouch]

Want a new game, will probably get a remake.

I don't think it will be FFVII though, for a few reasons:
1) People would want it to be the quality of the tech demo, which would be a ridiculous amount of work and money, which I personally don't think they would make back.
2) If I was Square I would be scared as hell to ruin peoples memories of the games (happened when I tried to play it again). However, if they try to fix/change things and make it a batter game, people will complain endlessly.
3) Didn't Square say they weren't doing anything else with this game?

Now now, let's check the side and rear-view mirrors here first. In all honesty, I feel that a lot of remakes are made out to be a lot more difficult than they really need to be. But before I go into this, I want to state which games would be nice to see remade first:

-I think if they re-did Final Fantasy I and II with a more modern look to them, they'd be pretty successful and help RPG gamers that aren't really "old school" understand the origins of Final Fantasy better. By "modern look", I mean simply re-do the graphics, make some polished remixes of all the old musics that are actually good, fix translation issues, get some good voice acting. Don't mess around too much with the original battle/development system.

This isn't ever going to happen, I'm sure, but it would be nice.

-I would like to see a remake of FF VII as well. I know I'm probably going to get a firing squad on me for saying this, and everyone knows that I'm not exactly the biggest FF VII fan to begin with. In all honesty though, a remake would actually be nice. Again, all they need to do is give it a polished/modern graphics look and re-do the musics in a nice way. In short, all they have to do is give it a nicer presentation. Maybe get voice actors that aren't terrible? It'd also be a good chance for them to make Cloud's character a little more likable instead of being overly mopey. I wouldn't want them to change anything about the battle system or the development, though they might want to increase the difficulty of the Emerald and Ruby weapons, and hell, they might want to raise Sephiroth's difficulty as well considering how much of a joke he was.

Again, I already know this is a remake that won't ever happen, but it would be nice to see.

-I really, really hope they remake FF VI for the 360 or the PS3. Unfortunately, it'll probably be a DS remake made with the same lame chibi polygons as I'm sure they don't want to put too much effort into making a polished look and feel for an older game like this. I'd have the same expectations though: voice acting that's actually good, re-done musics that are actually good, and nicer graphics to give the game a little more life.


In short, I think that remakes should only be about fixing the presentation and translation issues. I'm not a fan of tinkering too much with any of the original battle system, game play, or development/advancement systems as I don't think there's any real need to. Sometimes it's best to just keep things simple.

[Rase]

Now now, let's check the side and rear-view mirrors here first. In all honesty, I feel that a lot of remakes are made out to be a lot more difficult than they really need to be.

I'll be the first to admit that I don't know the amount of work that goes into making a game nowadays, but the amount of time that it has taken Square to make a PS3 game (if we are assuming a FFVII remake would be on PS3, which I think most do) definitely gives me pause. However, I still hold that the main issue is that a game that played just like FFVII released nowadays would not sell well, and if they changed it there would be a mass outcry. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Square and it's shareholders are cautious to ruin any of the magic people feel toward the game, and so they're more then happy to just rerelease it on PSN where it's deficiencies are acceptable because it's a mid-lifespan PS1 game.

Back when I first played the game I enjoyed the crap out of it also. If I hadn't replayed it after playing more FF's and RPG's or hadn't waited until 2003 to replay than maybe I would still hold that view.

[RedPouch]

However, I still hold that the main issue is that a game that played just like FFVII released nowadays would not sell well, and if they changed it there would be a mass outcry. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Square and it's shareholders are cautious to ruin any of the magic people feel toward the game, and so they're more then happy to just rerelease it on PSN where it's deficiencies are acceptable because it's a mid-lifespan PS1 game.

There's some merit in this concern, but I really don't think it would be that bad. I think a good way to play it safe would be to not change the presentation entirely, but instead to polish it while preserving its original integrity. One reason why movie remakes usually aren't successful is that they try too hard to "improve" it by adding things that weren't meant to be there, ie adding music that wasn't there to begin with, changing some of the music entirely, changing some of the dialogue, changing the script, changing characters and their traits or even on occasion adding new characters entirely, etc.

Now with a video game it's a bit different, and I'm actually in favour of changing the dialogue only in the direction of fixing translation issues [but nothing further than that]. However I really don't like if they go too far with tinkering the original design and making it something entirely different. I honestly believe if they made a true remake which could honestly be called "the exact same game except with a presentation enhanced by a modern game engine", then it would be successful all-around. It should get the appreciation from prior die-hard FF VII fans as well as some new ones.

I always thought that a FF VII remake would never be possible done since Square has announced many times that they'd never consider it, but I read an article that was linked somewhere on these forums which suggested it may be a possibility after all, but it's only rumours right now. I guess we'll see.

[VeloZer0]

I would be scared as hell to see a FFVII remake. As we talked about in the Emo re -invention thread, Cloud was a jerk in FFVII and in every interpretation since he is mopey/emo/whiny, take your pick of descriptors. I strongly dislike how he is portrayed in AC, KH1 & 2, and in Dissidia he is absolutely unbearable. After publishing four games with this radically changed and loserish personality, I can't see them not butchering him completely in a FFVII remake.

When I think re-make I usually think DS, as the investment in a PS3/XBOX (lol, just thought about remaking FFVII for Wii) is so much greater, and I don't know if the payoff is that significant to justify it. My most wanted would be from the DS, as I very much enjoyed FFIII & FFIV. I would very much like to see FFV done in the same style. (I think FFVI can stand on it's own without upgrades far better than any other SNES title.)

As for dreams, well one of three things:
New PS3 Chrono Game
Remake Chrono Trigger in full cell shaded next gen awesomeness
New next gen FFT entry (FFT is my favorite game ever, but I haven't been able to get more than an hour into either FFTAs)

I don't know how likely any of these are, but I can dream.

[Slothy]

I just don't think a remake of V or VI would compare to a remake of FFVII in actual sales figures.

In sales figures no, but in terms of return on investment, they could actually make a higher return on DS remakes of FFV or VI. A PS3 remake of FFVII could easily cost in the realm of $20 million or more. The cost to remake a game on the DS would be substantially less, requiring a lot less in sales to earn an excellent return.

That doesn't even get into the fact that a VII remake that doesn't perfectly balance the feel of the old game with the right improvements in the right places will put off older fans, or annoy newer fans with outdated gaming conventions, or put off those who weren't big fans to begin with.

No matter what the case, a remake wouldn't be remotely as successful as the original. Personally I'm hoping for a Chrono sequel even if I doubt their ability to do it right.

[ANGRYWOLF]

I just don't think a remake of V or VI would compare to a remake of FFVII in actual sales figures.

In sales figures no, but in terms of return on investment, they could actually make a higher return on DS remakes of FFV or VI. A PS3 remake of FFVII could easily cost in the realm of $20 million or more. The cost to remake a game on the DS would be substantially less, requiring a lot less in sales to earn an excellent return.

That doesn't even get into the fact that a VII remake that doesn't perfectly balance the feel of the old game with the right improvements in the right places will put off older fans, or annoy newer fans with outdated gaming conventions, or put off those who weren't big fans to begin with.

No matter what the case, a remake wouldn't be remotely as successful as the original. Personally I'm hoping for a Chrono sequel even if I doubt their ability to do it right.

I don't know what percentage of rpg fans/FF fans own one..as a percentage of the total group.

We had a discussion in anotrher thread about some franchises Square was ignoring and Chrono was in that group.
I don't know if Square is interested in making another Chrono game.

Greed will determine what Square will remake. I don't think alienating old FFVII fans even enters their thought processes. Only how much of a profit can be made and I think FFVII has the greatest profit making potential for a remake over any of the old FFs.

[VeloZer0]

From what I remember reading, it is not so much that they are neglecting the Chrono franchise as they don't want to touch it now that they don't have the team to do it right anymore. Which is something I can respect.

[champagne supernova]

I don't think it could be a Kingdom Hearts game, because the majority of that team are still working on Versus XIII, which will only be released in 2010/2011. And there is already a KH title due to be released on PSP.

But I think the team responsible for the DS remakes are doing very little. Unfortunately, so is Production Team 1, the guys who've just finishing producing XIII, which makes this less clear-cut. And these guys would only do something large-scale. And, as XIV has its own Production Team, that means that if something is announced from them, it'd be XV or VII. Matsuno's old team will probably do something involving the Ivalice world (like Vagrant Story please), but I have no clue why anyone would be asking Nomura about anything from Ivalice.

So I reckon its a FF remake. And as Nomura wasn't heavily involved in the creative input of anything before the Playstation era, I reckon its VII.

[VeloZer0]

I would sure hope that as soon as FFXIII was wrapped up they started piecing together their FFXV team asap. Not that they would need to announce it right away, but seeing as the development cycle is so long it should *hopefully* already be in the pipe.

[Bastian]

Want a new game, will probably get a remake.
I also think they've mentioned not doing much else with the Mana series after Dawn of Mana blew.

I'm a Mana fanatic, and I never read any such thing. The only things I read Mana-related after the "World of Mana" series of games came out was that their creator Iishi left S-E to form his own company. But that still leaves Mana in S-E's hands, of course, so they could still manage new Mana games.

I think Chrono games are not gonna happen because it's been said that they would only do another one if they could reassemble the old team, and that is nigh impossible.

Sadly, I think we're just looking at KHIII, and S-E's tendency to over hype announcements.

But I would LOVE FFV on the DS ala the FFIII/IV remake style.
Or a FF:CC game on the Wii in the style of the original for the GC.

[Super Christ]

I would like to see a DS remake, in the style of FFIII and IV, of any of the first 6 they haven't done yet, i.e. FF1, 2, 5, or 6.

A new Chrono game would be even better, but I don't want to hear it from Tetsuya Nomura, I want to hear it from Masato Kato.

Kingdom Hearts III is a safe bet though.