NFL Playoffs

[Bunny]

Peyton Manning took years to become anything good

How do you figure this? I consider setting five NFL records in his rookie season while throwing almost 4,000 yards throughout (despite the high INT and the ending record of the team that season) a pretty good start. Considering the following year the Colts went 13-3 and have only had two losing seasons since Manning was named the starter, I don't necessary think that is "years to become anything good".

To each their own though. I'm not saying Brady is a horrible quarterback, quite the opposite in fact, I just don't like the way that the team is managed.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Peyton Manning took years to become anything good

How do you figure this? I consider setting five NFL records in his rookie season while throwing almost 4,000 yards throughout (despite the high INT and the ending record of the team that season) a pretty good start. Considering the following year the Colts went 13-3 and have only had two losing seasons since Manning was named the starter, I don't necessary think that is "years to become anything good".

To each their own though. I'm not saying Brady is a horrible quarterback, quite the opposite in fact, I just don't like the way that the team is managed.

He set five NFL ROOKIE records. They were not records in terms of the entire NFL. Rookie records are crap anyways, as are a lot of records.

The Colts tried to say something by benching their team the last 2 games... that all that really matters is the Superbowl. That was the statement. If you think the implications of that aren't true, you're just plain wrong. Everything is about the Superbowl, none of these other things even matter. That Patriots went undefeated but lost the Superbowl... what does it mean? Nothing. The only thing that matters in the end, is the Superbowl. That's why Dan Marino was really nothing special. They can say he was, but he really wasn't.

Manning started in 1998, took him til 2006 to win a Superbowl. Even Eli Manning won a Superbowl faster than he did.

I'm sorry but, I have always felt Peyton Manning was highly overrated (much better now). Good quarterback yes, but it took him YEARS not to choke in the big game. That's why Drew Bledsoe sucked, cause he would LOSE games for his team. That's what Peyton Manning use to do. That's what Donovan McNabb still does, that's what Tony Romo still does.

I mean the most Passing Yards this season was by Houston QB, they're not in the Playoffs. The most rushing yards this season was the Titans RB, they're not in the playoffs, Most Sacks Denver player, most Tackles San Fran player.... these numbers mean nothing.


PS: Some of these things that they throw out there in these games are absurd. The Ravens have never lost in December when it's below 50 degrees and they're winning by 14 in the third quarter at home and they have over 9 wins already that season.... I mean really, that's what some of this things they say actually ARE.

THE JACKAL

[charliepanayi]

I wonder if the Colts strategy from their final two games may backfire, it can mean you're left with a team that hasn't played together properly for almost a month come your first playoff game and the rustiness can occasionally be costly. Also I'm sure I read that the one Superbowl the Colts won in recent years was the one season when they didn't/couldn't rest any starters at the tail-end of the regular season. But they certainly have the ability to go all the way so we'll have to wait and see. Personally, I think it's a shame they didn't try and go for 16-0, the Patriots didn't lose to the Giants because they didn't rest anyone in the regular season! But if they win the Superbowl, it won't matter I guess.

And to be fair people weren't saying they thought Brady was a poor QB, they said they thought he was a tool.

[Raistlin]

That's why Dan Marino was really nothing special. They can say he was, but he really wasn't.

I suppose that makes sense if you've never actually watched football. You can say that about the team during Marino's career, but you can't say that about an individual player. The QB is just one player on a team, and you need a bunch more pieces to work well to win a Superbowl. Tom Brady did not "win" any Superbowls; he was part of a team that won it. The "look at the rings" argument to exclusively determine the ability of a player is ridiculous.

He set five NFL ROOKIE records. They were not records in terms of the entire NFL. Rookie records are crap anyways, as are a lot of records.

So a team winning a specific game is indicative of an individual player's ability, but actually looking at that player's stats is not? What sort of crazy moon logic is that?

[Raistlin]

Ok, so for anyone else watching this game: why are the announcers praising Lewis wasting his two challenges on two blatantly obvious calls in the first quarter? I think it was Theismann. God he's retarded.

[charliepanayi]

That's why they call them the Bungles huh. Those field goal attempts were horrific. Well done to the Jets, they've copped some unfair flak ('if the Colts and Bengals hadn't rested players they wouldn't be in the playoffs' etc) though it'll be very tough to go to San Diego or Indianapolis and win there.

[Raistlin]

The Bengals certainly returned to form this game after a good season. Carson Palmer looked terrible and Shayne Graham apparently can't hit the broad side of a barn.

[ljkkjlcm9]

meh, I don't think they stand a chance against either team. But I guess that's what football is about. Any team can win on any given day, regardless of anything.

THE JACKEL

[Raistlin]

Well the Eagles sucked it up again. McNabb was pretty terrible for most of the game. Did Vick end up with more passing yards? Probably not with garbage time (I stopped watching), but that would be funny.

Anyway, 50% on picks so far. Hopefully tomorrow's better.

[charliepanayi]

So...er...Baltimore 24-0 up and the first quarter not even over. Didn't see that coming.

[Raistlin]

That was an amazing first quarter to watch. Though unfortunately Baltimore had one major screwup to start off the second quarter, resulting in the Partiots's only points, but I can live with the halftime score.

Go Ravens!

[Flying Arrow]

3rd quarter in the Bal/NE match-up. I am loving this. Ravens looked a bit shaky near the end of the 2nd, though.

[Del Murder]

0-3 on my picks. COME ON PACK

[Raistlin]

It looks like I was the only one here to pick the Ravens. Suck on that, Patriots backers.

I predicted Green Bay to win, but I'm rooting for Arizona for the hell of it. Most people writing them off in the first round at home? Sounds a lot like last year, which was a highly entertaining run for them.

[charliepanayi]

Two non-existent defences = brilliant game between Green Bay and Arizona.

So next week it'll be:

NFC:
Dallas @ Minnesota
Arizona @ New Orleans

AFC:
New York Jets @ San Diego
Baltimore @ Indianapolis

Predictions? I'd take San Diego and Indianapolis in the AFC (though I'm starting to wonder about Baltimore), but I fancy two away wins in the NFC, Dallas and Arizona.