Reviews

[Wolf Kanno]

I like Yahtzee's reviews though I may not always agree with them but at the same time I can't disagree with his problems with a title.

I adore MGS4 and TWEWY which were two titles he totally trashed and hated on, yet I can't really disagree with any of the problems he had with the game beyond subjective elements like story. That said, I do agree with a lot of elements in his review of XIII, though I haven't finished the title, I feel all his complaints are pretty valid. Whether they make the game a terrible experience for the player really depends on your own personal taste though...

Whenever I get around to finishing XIII I'll make my own review or at least a thread for people to post their own reviews.

[Raistlin]

He does make some valid points though, as usual. "It gets better 20 hours in" is not a point in favor of any game, and the majority of the game is obnoxiously linear.

[Wolf Kanno]

That's actually one of his points I felt really hit the nail on the head concerning this game.

[Rase]

He likes ELEMENTS from those games. The only games he likes overall really are God of War, Sands of Time, and maybe even that one Spider-Man game. But again, thats just his online persona.

Man, if you have a list of games that you love everything about, good for you. The rest of the world (I'm fairly certain) has no problem admitting games they like have issues, which I suppose means they like elements of them. I love Shadow of the Colossus, Resident Evil 4, Final Fantasy IV, and a myriad of other games; not one would I say is flawless, all have elements I dislike (Shadow of the Colossus lacked anything other than boss fights and an empty world, Resident Evil 4 didn't scare me once and had annoying escort crap, and FFIV spoils the dramatic punch of party death along with pulling the Big Bad out of nowhere). I would still list them as favorites and recommend them to anyone with good taste in gaming. Also, he thinks Portal is better than Jesus, so I think that's good praise.

He reviews games to slam them for comedic purposes, I doubt you'll argue against that...

it's point is just to stir up the fanboys and humor the rest (I'm assuming, if FFXIII's review is like any other high-profile ones he's slammed).

Glad you agree though.

When I said pointless, i meant irrelevant. I love watching his videos, but if I took him seriously, I would pretty much be hating my whole catalogue of games.

Or you could take him seriously and think for yourself about whether your opinions match his. Works pretty well for me. I have little doubt that a lot of what Yahtzee says is his real feelings on games, sometimes exaggerated if he thinks his audience will enjoy it more. Hyperbole is often hilarious, but also grounded in some truth.

The game is awesome, so hes not spot on....

The game is mediocre, so he's spot on.

Oh man, see what I did there?

[seiferalmasy2]

The game is awesome, so hes not spot on....

Game? I sure don't see one...I thought game meant gameplay and minigames and interactivity...

Not a movie with a few battles.

[Croyles]

So clever....

[Elpizo]

The game is awesome, so hes not spot on....

Game? I sure don't see one...I thought game meant gameplay and minigames and interactivity...

Not a movie with a few battles.

Is your purpose to be believable, or do you just post nonsense to annoy people? If the latter, good job, you succeeded. Pat yourself on the back. Now go back and actually play FF XIII. Because there's no way you've played it. With just "a few battles" you don't make it through chapter 11.

If XIII is a movie, what do you call Heavy Rain? A game?

[demondude]

Why do people complain so much if they don't like a game? Nobody forced money in your hand to buy the bloody thing. Go outside and play or something.

[Croyles]

Why do people complain so much if they don't like a game? Nobody forced money in your hand to buy the bloody thing. Go outside and play or something.

[seiferalmasy2]

The game is awesome, so hes not spot on....

Game? I sure don't see one...I thought game meant gameplay and minigames and interactivity...

Not a movie with a few battles.

Is your purpose to be believable, or do you just post nonsense to annoy people? If the latter, good job, you succeeded. Pat yourself on the back. Now go back and actually play FF XIII. Because there's no way you've played it. With just "a few battles" you don't make it through chapter 11.

If XIII is a movie, what do you call Heavy Rain? A game?

That was obviously not intended to be "few" it was just a figure of speech. There are actually thousands of useless battles, does that make you feel better? Sure as hell makes me think the game is actually worse considering 20 hours of the game are basically autobattle (adn 2 AI controlled characters) and so are more.

Luckily I don't need to sell the game as I never bought it. I quite clearly stated that I wasn't foolish enough to. I looked at vids, walk throughs and reviews, and concluded I would not like it anymore than I liked XII and its dumbing down.

If I annoy you, maybe you need to separate your emotions for agame and real life? I haven't played Heavy Rain either, so that is a rather pointless argument.

[Elpizo]

Useless? If the battles in XIII are useless, then so is every other battle in the FF series that isn't a boss. After all, you need normal battles for CP, like in other FFs you need it for EXP or Spheres. And if you did only autobattle, I'm sure you never got past the second chapter or so, for from chapter three and onwards you need to shift your paradigms quite often. In fact, I still don't think you played the game. You're just bashing it for the hell of it and to annoy people. That is called trolling.

- You want minigames? There ARE minigames. One in Vile Peaks, later on chocobos.
- You want sidequests? There ARE sidequests.
- You want exploring? There IS exploring.
- You want NPCs? There ARE NPCs.
- You want towns? There are towns.
- You want gameplay? There is gameplay, quite a lot of it, too.
- You want battles? There are battles, and not at all useless. And you'll be glad the AI takes care of your party members, too.
- You want to have at least some control over your entire party during battle, though? You can, use the paradigm shift system, and use Libra to optimize their way of thinking.
- You want to customize your characters? You can.
- You want to find ultimate weapons? You can.
- You want a story? It's there.
- You want to develop your characters like with a Sphere Grid or Exp? You can. It's called the Crystarium System.

Face it boy, you don't know what you're talking about. You did not play the game, you merely watched some others play or read reviews that might or might not have been biased. You did that, then decided "and now I'll amuse myself by looking down on everybody who bought the came and likes it and call them fools! Ha, what great fun! And for extra fun, I'll tear down FF XIII with arguments that are laughable at best and can be disproven in an instant, but I'll just ignore that!".

If you annoy me, maybe it's because you're making the time I spend on this forum not enjoyable because you're screaming hate with baseless arguments like XIII is a movie and has no gameplay? There are quite some other games out there that are far more "movie, not game" than XIII, and in fact calling XIII a movie is just a sign of either not having played the game or simple trolling.

As far as I'm concerned, one can dislike XIII, but only for reasons that aren't actually plain absurd or have no base. And if you haven't played it, then you certainly shouldn't complain about its gameplay or lack of it. You haven't played it, so you don't know what you're talking about.

If you're that eager to play a traditional RPG, go take White Knight Chronicles or Star Ocean IV from the store and stop trolling FF XIII. That way, you'll have something you like, and XIII doesn't have to bear your hating anymore. Seems win-win to me.

[Rase]

Why do people complain so much if they don't like a game? Nobody forced money in your hand to buy the bloody thing. Go outside and play or something.

1. If people liked the game they probably wouldn't complain as much. Kinda how it works.
2. Why complain about people complaining? No one is forcing you to come to read their responses, or even read this thread, or even go to this forum. Go outside and play or something.
3. It's kinda human nature to tell our thoughts on something, explain them, and (if they are different than another's) to compare and contrast the differing opinions (with both's sides wanting to convince the other they are dumb and wrong). Welcome to the internet/politics/any debate.
4. Being contrarian is fun.

[seiferalmasy2]

Useless? If the battles in XIII are useless, then so is every other battle in the FF series that isn't a boss. After all, you need normal battles for CP, like in other FFs you need it for EXP or Spheres. And if you did only autobattle, I'm sure you never got past the second chapter or so, for from chapter three and onwards you need to shift your paradigms quite often. In fact, I still don't think you played the game. You're just bashing it for the hell of it and to annoy people. That is called trolling.

- You want minigames? There ARE minigames. One in Vile Peaks, later on chocobos.
- You want sidequests? There ARE sidequests.
- You want exploring? There IS exploring.
- You want NPCs? There ARE NPCs.
- You want towns? There are towns.
- You want gameplay? There is gameplay, quite a lot of it, too.
- You want battles? There are battles, and not at all useless. And you'll be glad the AI takes care of your party members, too.
- You want to have at least some control over your entire party during battle, though? You can, use the paradigm shift system, and use Libra to optimize their way of thinking.
- You want to customize your characters? You can.
- You want to find ultimate weapons? You can.
- You want a story? It's there.
- You want to develop your characters like with a Sphere Grid or Exp? You can. It's called the Crystarium System.

Face it boy, you don't know what you're talking about. You did not play the game, you merely watched some others play or read reviews that might or might not have been biased. You did that, then decided "and now I'll amuse myself by looking down on everybody who bought the came and likes it and call them fools! Ha, what great fun! And for extra fun, I'll tear down FF XIII with arguments that are laughable at best and can be disproven in an instant, but I'll just ignore that!".

If you annoy me, maybe it's because you're making the time I spend on this forum not enjoyable because you're screaming hate with baseless arguments like XIII is a movie and has no gameplay? There are quite some other games out there that are far more "movie, not game" than XIII, and in fact calling XIII a movie is just a sign of either not having played the game or simple trolling.

As far as I'm concerned, one can dislike XIII, but only for reasons that aren't actually plain absurd or have no base. And if you haven't played it, then you certainly shouldn't complain about its gameplay or lack of it. You haven't played it, so you don't know what you're talking about.

If you're that eager to play a traditional RPG, go take White Knight Chronicles or Star Ocean IV from the store and stop trolling FF XIII. That way, you'll have something you like, and XIII doesn't have to bear your hating anymore. Seems win-win to me.

Here we go again, emotional nonsense mixed with illogical nonsense. Let us begin:

If the battles in XIII are useless, then so is every other battle in the FF series that isn't a boss.

really valid point and i'm impressed by your thinking.. I did not call XIII battles useless simply because they are battles. If you go back far enough you will see my criticism is levelled at

a. Taking 2 characters away from the players control

b. Dumbing down Summons to a status where they aren't even needed and are purely eye candy (and ridiculous)

c. Introducing a lame system where you simply choose a few actions and most of the game is spent selecting auto battle (yes this really is a common complaint, I suggest you pull your head out of your arse and go read a few reviews). I am well aware the toughness of battles increases later in the game, but I am afraid that does not excuse the snail pace involvment or make the argument less valid.

d. That there are barely any real stats and customisation is also a lot less than previous FF's (Forget XII, that was the same problem but not as bad as this)

e. That all you do in this game is fight and watch a cutscene. There is nothing to break this up unlike other FF's where you were allowed to explore at your own leisure.

That is called trolling.

I am not the one turning this into a personal feud and then getting all excited when someone holds a completely different view to me. You protect this game with straw men and half truths, let us move on:

- You want minigames? There ARE minigames. One in Vile Peaks, later on chocobos.

The chocobo thing is a consolation and the minigames there are are small in number and pathetic. Let me remind you that the creators of this game said they could not do minigames because of HD. Yes, now, you want to argue with them too? There is a reason they defended the games lack of a PROPER minigame, like cards in FF8,9,Blitzball and chocobo racing to name 2 in X and gold saucer in VII. Please stop trying to make comparisons that ARE NOT THERE.

- You want sidequests? There ARE sidequests.

Yes more battles.

- You want exploring? There IS exploring.

Missing the point again, the point being that it has never been this restrictive and forcing.

- You want NPCs? There ARE NPCs.

They are far fewer in number and non interactive. They are not as well rounded in dialogue as in other FF's.

- You want towns? There are towns.

Again, they are not traditional or as engaging. Again the creators stated this was because of complocations with HD. You are trying to tell me that they defended the game against this and acknowledged there were real issues but....there aren't? Stop missing the point.

- You want gameplay? There is gameplay, quite a lot of it, too.

Replay value is pretty much near 0. The gameplay is bsed on number of minigames and their involvment, the battle system and sidequests all of which are severely lacking in this game compared to other FF's (except XII)

- You want battles? There are battles, and not at all useless. And you'll be glad the AI takes care of your party members, too.

I should be glad that the game is dumbing down for mass market appeal and taking interactivity away? Are you backwards?

- You want to have at least some control over your entire party during battle, though? You can, use the paradigm shift system, and use Libra to optimize their way of thinking.

Let me get this straight you think selecting a scan and then watching them attack is a good thing?

- You want to customize your characters? You can.

And dumbed down and less involved than othr FF's. This is like the 5th time you have tried to weedle out of this point.

- You want to find ultimate weapons? You can.

Make that 6.

- You want a story? It's there.

Yeah, and more bloated and melodramatic than ever before. Even forces you to read silly manuals in order to understand more of the plot.

- You want to develop your characters like with a Sphere Grid or Exp? You can. It's called the Crystarium System.

And you fail to mention how

It caps how far you can upgrade it until much later in the game. But this is a minor issue and I don't think this saves this train wreck.

Face it boy, you don't know what you're talking about.

Then nor do Edge, nor do 15 professional reviewers. Nor do atleast 30 users I have reviewed from and nor doe smy own knowledge from watching this game extensively on youtube. Please don't try to tell me that watching it on Youtube doesn't count because it does.

this forum not enjoyable because you're screaming hate with baseless arguments like XIII is a movie and has no gameplay?

Maybe you are too emotional about a game? Maybe the accusations that I and 100 more make are not baseless? Or are you the supreme fact around here? Your arguments are certainly half truths and straw men for sure.

"movie, not game" than XIII, and in fact calling XIII a movie is just a sign of either not having played the game or simple trolling.

There goes those accusations again trying to shift the argument. Where have I seen that good old one before? We aren't even talking about other games, so please stop trying to use other games to defend this one. The only games you can use to defend this one are FF games, as that is what I hold this game to. Nothing else.

You haven't played it, so you don't know what you're talking about.

You don't need to play a game to know if you like it. You do not need to play a game to know if you will hate it. You don't need to play a game to know what flaws it has. This is why we actually have review sites and youtube, or do you think people write reviews for their HP?? You might buy any crap without bothering to check it thoroughly before hand, or blindly suckle on Enix nipples, but I and a few others don't.

I will criticise this game as much as I like. As much as you congratulate it on this thread, I will place counter arguments and counter reviews. If you don't like that, then may I suggest you don't read my posts or this thread and instead learn how to accept differing reviews without resorting to accusations of trolling or whiny emotional outbursts trying to defend the undefendable.
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Tell you what: Let us have a selection of quotes from people who played the game, since you feel my opinion is worthless having not played:

Edge: 5/10

this can barely be described as a roleplaying game. You won’t come across a single town worthy of the label, talk to shopkeepers or be swept into an intricate minigame. Your characters don’t even level up for the first few hours. It’s best to get the beginning out of the way: it’s a disaster of pacing that both bores and condescends to the player.

While the system is complex, it’s not too hard to get to grips with the basics, but you won’t have access to the full capabilities of your party until around 20 hours in. It introduces every element at a crawling pace, and seems to think the only way players learn is through repetition – you’ll get a new tactic and then have to barrel through a series of identical enemies that are defeated by spamming it.

When your party is finally operating at full capacity, there’s still more of the linear story to trudge through – and it is a trudge. The game’s producers have gone on record as saying that western audiences don’t understand this first section, but in fact we do: it’s just a bit rubbish. The first 25 hours of the game are one long corridor of palette-swapped enemies, fights that never quite find the right level of challenge, and cutscene after cutscene (after cutscene) leaving your joypad entirely idle.

Some people don’t like numbers, but try this little sum. If you submit 25 hours of your life to a misjudged series of linear battles and cutscenes, Square Enix lets you play FFXIII, and you’ll get 25 decent hours out of it.

FFXIII takes brave risks with the series’ foundations, but they ultimately create trembling fractures throughout the entire edifice, that robust battle system unable to support the weight of an entire world. Final Fantasy games are always an investment. This time, the returns are questionable.

Destructoid: 4/10

Story is crucial to any RPG, and let me tell you right off the bat that Final Fantasy XIII has perhaps the worst story of any main Final Fantasy game to date. Aside from being poorly delivered and only vaguely comprehensible, the characters have no personality or depth, the world is not immersive in the least, and the main villain's methods and motivations are so illogical and convoluted that it's impossible to take him seriously.

The game constantly gives off a sense that it's having way more fun with itself than the player, and that theme is continued in the brand new battle system. Battles ostensibly play themselves for you, mostly because Square Enix's new Paradigm System is so contrived and complicated that the player would be confused if he had to control it himself. Instead of manually inputting commands for all your characters, everybody -- including the player's character -- can automatically fight of their own free will.

Despite the fact that the game is playing itself, the player is still forced to pay attention the whole time. It'll be your job to make sure the party's HP stays up, and with enemies always busting out hugely devastating attacks, it's a full-time job. Also, if the main player character dies, it's game over. Naturally, this leads to all sorts of fun once enemies bring one-hit kills to the table,

Player choice is stripped to a bare minimum as well. Most of the time, players can't even choose their own battle party until the end of the game, and are constantly having to re-organize their Paradigms after the game decided to wipe all the customization from the slate.

just like the story and the gameplay, took a back seat to the graphics.Final Fantasy XIII is visuals, visuals, visuals, with nothing of substance to back up the pretty colors.

Final Fantasy XIII offers very little else other than eye candy. Ultimately, this latest addition to the Final Fantasy series is a pompous and masturbatory affair, created seemingly to promote the developer's ego first, and the player's enjoyment second.

is too busy licking its own arse to look up and notice that everybody around it has fallen asleep. Written with all the skill of a three-year-old and paced with the eagerness of a virgin in heat, Final Fantasy XIII isn't just bad by Final Fantasy standards, it's pretty damn poor for the genre itself.

It's the worst main chapter in the Final Fantasy series to date, and if this is the future of the franchise, that future is incredibly bleak indeed.

Teletext GameCentral: 6/10

But why Square Enix thought turning Final Fantasy into a linear, almost on-the-rails, beat 'em-up would be a good idea is a mystery we hope they don't end up regretting

The most serious problem for the game is that you've only got one form of interaction with the world: combat.

There's no world map, no real towns, shops are bland menus accessed at save points and you never actually talk to other characters, just overhear conversations from those nearby. If not for levelling up (using a system similar to Final Fantasy X) it could barely be called a role-player at all.

Worse still the dungeons maps are entirely linear - not just in the there's-only-one-way-to-go sense but in that many are just straight corridors.

The game automates so much for you (including the other two characters) that for the first two hours you can play through the whole thing simply by continually mashing the 'X' button.

What's especially irritating is that 25 hours in a relatively open world environment is finally introduced, apparently meant as a metaphor for the game's other less controlling society.

Only here do you get a glimpse at the game most fans were expecting, but it's much too little far too late.

I could go on with professional reviewers, see here > Final Fantasy XIII (ps3) reviews at Metacritic.com


Here are some user comments:

You do nothing but press the X button for the first ten hours. After that a reasonably designed combat system is slowly introduced to you like you're some kind of retard who's never played a game before

Hitting X over and over and maybe the left bumper once and a while is hardly groundbreaking. and I wouldn't mind grinding if I had other stuff in the game to do! This is a disaster of a Final Fantasy!

Why this game took so long to create i don't know. Im actually playing it as a 'video game' and hoping as a die hard fan it will give me the FF satisfaction i crave. I haven't got to the 3rd disk yet but thats precisely my point, i don't care if i finish it or not this time around.

firethief98
4/10
Music, Graphics, Giant monsters, a varied cast. But where is the game?

infact, instead of telling me that my opinion doesn't count or it is all a horrible lie

Final Fantasy XIII User Reviews for PlayStation 3 - GameSpot

have a good look through the ones there and notice that there seems to be far more criticism than other FF's got, especially from people who are established fanbase. Don't tell me that I am making it all up or unjustified.

[Elpizo]

It's nice how, when I get you, you suddenly expand your points. First it's "XIII doesn't have this or that! It sucks!". Then I say it does, and you go "Yes, but it's not like how I want it! Whine whine whine!". What's next?

And here we go again with you saying I buy whatever SE throws at me just because I like XIII. Well, I say you hate everything SE does because you hate XIII. Happy now? If we're going to exagerate, might as well take that route, too. Two can play this game.

No, I will never stop using other games as examples. After all, you draw reviews, OTHERS' opinion, in as defence for YOUR opinion, so I can do the same with games. And have more base for it, too. You just want XIII to be a movie, and you don't give a damn if it is or not. While in fact it is nowhere near a movie, and there are games out there that are far more movie. It's a baseless, and utterly stupid argument to make, because it's not true. But you, just because you want to hate XIII and make damn sure everybody knows it and you can call everyone who does like it mindless smurfs, keep using this argument.

I'm not emotional about the game in itself. I'm annoyed by YOU. Yes, you very, very personally, because you are throwing around baseless hate here, that basically comes down to "SE didn't make the game like how I wanted it and now I'm gonna rage about it and spread my hate! Raagh! You are all stupid for liking XIII!". Yeah, excuse me for having my own taste.

Watching it on youtube doesn't count. There, I said it, what are you going to do? If you only watch on youtube, of course it's going to be a movie. Surely you must have realized this? By only watching or reading reviews, you can not have a true grasp of the game and how it feels to play it, how involved in it you are or aren't. That you base your buy on reviews, that's your choice. But if you haven't played it, keep shut about how you don't like how it plays, because you haven't played it. You've only seen it played. And yes, if you can understand this or not, there is a big difference. It's like, if I were to watch somebody play Doom, would I get the same sense of scare, the nervousness of when the next monster is gonna attack? Nope, no way. Unlike when I play it myself.

Likewise, if you haven't played XIII, you can not say if not controlling all party members is indeed as bad as you seem to think. You haven't tested the system yourself. You're just blindly sucking up whatever reviewers throw at you intead of finding out yourself. Who is the blind following sheep here? You. At least I bothered to play and form my own opinion based on the game, not on somebody else his opinion.

The cap on the Crystarium is a moot point anyway, as in the first part, you won't reach the cap unless you grind and there is no need to grind. Later, in chapter 11, when grinding is required, you'll appreciate the cap, for reaching it means you're all set to move on. Of course, you, having not played the game, wouldn't know this.

Every FF has things about its plot that don't make sense unless you check a guide, so don't go pointing at how bad XIII is for this. Unless you can explain me where Necron comes from, or Ultimecia's background story. Or what exactly NeoExDeath is. Or how exactly the Emperor became the lord of hell. Or... See? Point invalid, moving on.

How is it dumbed down and less involved? I seem to remember in X having only 2 slots, and some stupid upgrading system one never used anyway. Again, you blame XIII for having something other FF's have had. And also, you need to explain to me how giving 5 pieces of the best equipment to a character is any more involving than upgrading equipment. Point invalid, moving on. I'm starting to notice a patern here. I'm not weedling out of a point, you just wanna hate XIII so much that whenever I make a valid point you call it "weedling out f it" or call it "it's dumbed down" to avoid giving a valid reason for your dislike.

I don't know about scan being a good thing, but you said you had no control at all. Which is ignorance showing because you haven't played it. I just proved you wrong. That you don't like how it works, is your problem, and I don't care. People can dislike a new system. You can't hate a system for not existing when it does, like you do, though. That's just stupid.

And now suddenly you're talking about replay? No no no boy, you said XIII had no gameplay. It was a movie, remember? Well, I proved that it was not, you don't like having one less reason to hate XIII so you draw something new in. I bet you're gonna draw something new in after this post, too, just so you can keep hating XIII instead of finding a game you like (and I find it funny how you ignored this point. Proof enough to me that you are just trolling, and hating for the sake of it).

I'm not trying to defend the makers, or do whatver. I'm saying YOU are wrong when you're ignorantly screaming XIII has no towns. Because it has. As for the rest, that you don't like the take on it, that's your opinion which you can have. SE tried something different, some like it, you don't. If all the rest of your hating had as much logic as this, I wouldn't have to type this.

Yeah, because FF I NPCs had SUCH sophisticated things to say. Please.

No, you miss the point. You screamed XIII had no exploring. It has. And now when I point this out, and you discover that you wrong, you dislike this, so you bring up a more elaborate point that actually has some base, namely: "it is different and I don't like it". Fine, don't like it. But don't scream it's not there. It's stupid. And even then, you can't really judge, you haven't played it.

Yes, sidequests are more battles. So? That wasn't the point, you screamed there were no sidequests at all. There are. You were wrong. That's all there is to it.

Regardless of how the minigames are, they ARE there and so your scream of "XIII has no minigames! It sucks!" is also invalid and wrong. That's all there is to it.

I do not defend this game with straw men and half thruts. It is you who is attacking it with lies. And when those lies are exposed, you suddenly return with a post that is more logical, but basically comes down to this: "SE made a game I don't like, and now I'm gonna hate and call everybody who likes it stupid mindless sheep! Yeah, go me!".

You screamed things weren't there, I said, having played the game and thus knowing it, they are there. What your opinion on those changes is or isn't, I don't give a rat's ass about that. What annoys me about you is ignorant claims of "XIII is a movie!" "XIII has no sidequests!" "XIII has no minigames!". So next time you go on your hate rampage, since you seem to find that so much more fun than talking about a game you do like, actually do it with arguments that make sense and aren't laughable. Like: "XIII has a type of sidequests I don't like!" or "XIII has minigames I don't like!". If you did that, I wouldn't give a damn.

That's nether emotional or whiny of me, or defending the undefendable. It's sheer annoyance at you flat out lying. And that's all. So start hating XIII with some real arguments whenever you type down your hate, or do something more productive with your time. You don't see me in the VI board screaming lies at VI because I hate it, now do you?

[seiferalmasy2]

Having read 1 paragraph, you obviously didn't read my posts, the many from professional reviewers or the user reviews. So quite honestly, I am not reading the rest of your reply. I don't play this tired game anymore, whereby I make a point with Hyperbole and it is the hyperbole that is seized on and not the argument, or half truths, straw men come backs. I don't bother with it anymore....I simply state the reply and switch off. If you had something to actually say and your point accepted that there are flaws in this game (and tons of them) fair enough, but trying to convince me nothing is wrong with weak arguments and ignoring the comebacks means I just say nightty night.

Have a nice day

So many cutscenes are thrown in just to show off the landscapes, and FMVs are regularly thrown in just to be a glorified tech demo for the White Engine. XIII looks stunning, that much is true, but that's all it is. A looker. XIII is vapid, shallow, and intensely self-satisfied. All it cares about is displaying its peacock feathers and trying to distract us from the ludicrous plot with bright colors and audacious effects. Even the battle system is clearly putting graphics first, putting fast-paced visual acrobatics before substantial gameplay.