What have I missed in your posts Carbuncle? YOu said what happened day two and night two are the reason you trust Ifrit, and you don't trust me because I've been 'fishy'. So what, if I were to flip town at some point, would that change your opinion? If you saw I had no reason to act fishy, would that really shake your faith in Ifrit?

I'm far from saying Lynch me though, cause honestly that wouldn't prove anything. Accept you being wrong about me, Bahamut, and Shiva all being scum. And how can I not read your posts fully? They've all only been 1-2 sentences for quite a few posts now.

You go after me for not contributing, but you've been doing nothing but reiterating what others have already said. Tell me, what have you really added to the discussion?


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Quote Originally Posted by [M] Ramuh View Post
Ifrit - Some will argue this, but his actions have, to me, proven his alignment. It was because of him we lynched the serial killer, which basically rocks.
Choboco would have been lynched anyway as me and a few other summons already found him fishy. Ifrit saw this and used this as an opportunity to claim Choboco as guilty which turned out to be true. Don't assume that he's innocent for this reason. He could be scum that knew Choboco wasn't one of them. I'm half and half on Ifrit. I don't think he is the most suspicious of the people, but I'm still a little iffy about him.

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I would much rather the cop investigate [M] Ramuh 'cause he was, what, number four for [M] Chocobo before he outed himself, which really set the fatty up for Likeliest to be Lynched, and sure enough [M] Leviathan voted for chubster and our Serial Killer confessed. Maybe it's a lot to ask for, aiming a cop away from me, but odds say there's a mafia member in those first four votes for [M] Chocobo. Oh, and we totally gotta swing the fatty, right? I'll withhold my vote for now just so this ain't a railroading.
First scum thing she said. "Oh please please don't investigate me copper! Please please go after someone else because I'd come up as guilty!"

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Quote Originally Posted by [M] Chocobo View Post
If I stay alive tonight, I will kill.
I really do like the idea of being nice and safe by lynching you, but what benefits the town at this point also benefits the mafia. And we're down two townies already, and while we're busy stringing up [M] Chocobo, we're also removing a gun which might end up pointed at a mafia. He might kill a townie tonight if he lives, yeah, but he also might get a mafia. Earlier, he promised to kill himself rather than be used, but then later says he will kill again tonight if left alive. Sounds like a killer to me and that's useful (but risky).
Second scum thing she said. "Oh please please don't lynch the serial killer! Please please keep him alive so you won't see that he's probably telling the truth about me and he can kill of some townies!"

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, [M] Ifrit, [M] Carbuncle, [M] Valefor, and [M] Ramuh were the first four to vote for [M] Chocobo before [M] Leviathan crushed him and he 'fessed up. At least one of them is scum, I'm willing to commit to that. Specifically, I can't say. Those are my only worthwhile suspicions. The [M] Bahamut and [M] Ifrit confrontation would have been nice to solve, but theories surrounding it seem reasonable enough, especially with the Sudden Death match.
Third scum thing she said. "And now I'm going to point out people who are pro-town so you can kill them instead of a serial killer!"

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I can't defend myself without someone roleclaiming and I'm not willing to go there yet.
What could she mean by this?

Shiva, you have some explaining to do. And I just thought of something really amusing. Siren and Carbuncle. Geddit? Hehehe!
Last big post you made, and you really brought up nothing no one else had, except of course the issues you had with Ifrit's statement, which leads me to believe it's rather odd you'd side with him right now, especially when now you're only real reason to believe him is calling me out as scum.

You basically gave us another reason he would have called scum on Boko, giving us a total of three alternatives to his claim being true.

And Ifrit, I never said you claimed cop.

And if you were wrong? The next day would be based entirely on lynching you, and no other person was really connected to you at that point. You would have gotten a townie lynched, and then the next day would be wasted on your own lynch, with no one else to point a finger at. Not the best plan, but you'd be silly to expect everyone to go for the best plan available. Not every Idea is a winner. :P

And so long as you had legitame reason to believe he'd flip anti-town, why wouldn't you take a risk? The only way to make advances in this game is to take risk, as both town and Mafia. As Carbuncle said, Choco was likely to get lynched, so it gave someone a good opportunity to take a chance and attempt to gain a foothold.


Honestly though, Carbuncles initial doubt of you to being more convinced on such a flimsly basis as me being scum makes his behavior far to rash and 'fishy'. ;P

##Vote: Carbuncle

Why Carbuncle? Total lack of reasoning for defending Ifrit. If Ifrit is Town, A scum would realize it, given that one enemy faction is already killed. Anyone not associated with current scum is most likely town. The only reason I can see to believe fully Ifrit is town is if you know it by being a scum.

I think a lynch of Carbuncle to scum will prove Ifrit town.

However, Ifrit flipping town won't prove Carbuncle scum, and it will kill off a valuable role if he's telling the truth.

Also, Shiva has long since gotten a scum called on her, so she has been a prime target for a while. It's not wise to draw connections to those types, so it would be understandable at this point for Mafia to turn on their own to save the whole, so in advance I"m going to say Carbuncle's Lynch won't prove anything in regards to Shiva, only that of Ifrit.