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    Opinions are not, "wrong" they can be misguided. If a person has never taken Physics, they don't know the definition of Red Light, so they don't know that the actual physical color they think they're seeing, is not important, the same wavelength is going to everyone else that is going to them.

    The creation of misguided opinions is something that can, if they're opinions that are based on the physical world, teach someone. Example, "I think the sky is Red, because I think I'm a bit colorblind." Tavrobel freaks out at the bad physics just uttered, now someone better knows the definition of color. But what that person thought and imagined can't be called wrong, because without the ability to think outside of the box, without the ability to think it terms that don't seem real to others, our world would be different. Einstein is the example I'm hinting towards.

    Then there's just opinion...y opinions. Like "I think this food is the smurfing dude". Don't try to seriously quantify anyone as truly right or wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tavrobel View Post
    Goddamnit, stop using light as an example. Sure you can have a misfiring synapse somewhere, but light has been very specifically defined. Even if you don't see it as being red, it is still red, by the definition. If you couldn't see the red, it would be infrared, which is outside of our perceptual faculties. You can see green, and it will still be red. Read the goddamn definition. 500-700 nm from trough to trough.

    If you're going to rage on about higher level physics concepts, use the definition of a kilogram, okay? It's a friggin' block in the middle of France.
    I love people who love Physics enough that the discussion of it makes them angry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubah View Post
    So, how many people assuming it's true does it take, Jiro? It has be something more than sheer democracy, else we'd never get people convinced of new facts xD
    Beats me. I was trying to rehash something I kind of learned in class sometimes early last year. It was more science based, which makes me assume that they meant the majority of the scientific community.

    But really, I just wanted to take a potshot at sounding intelligent. It's kind of hard with all you engineers and lawyers and mathematicians around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    Opinions are not, "wrong" they can be misguided.
    Go go synonyms.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    If a person has never taken Physics, they don't know the definition of Red Light, so they don't know that the actual physical color they think they're seeing, is not important, the same wavelength is going to everyone else that is going to them.
    "The wavelengths of light from the sky are the same to me as to everyone else that's seeing them. I'm colorblind, so they see blue, and I see red."

    "The words in this above quote are the same to me as they are to everyone else that's reading them. I'm not good at languages, so everyone else sees the words in your quote and says you're typing in English, while it is my opinion that you are typing in French, because that's what I see."

    It doesn't matter if what they see is different from others, it doesn't make them any less wrong. The sky is still not red, and your post is still not in French, even if I see it differently from others.

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    But what that person thought and imagined can't be called wrong, because without the ability to think outside of the box, without the ability to think it terms that don't seem real to others, our world would be different. Einstein is the example I'm hinting towards.
    It sounded like you just said "everything that's said and thought can't be wrong until proven wrong."

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    Then there's just opinion...y opinions. Like "I think this food is the smurfing dude". Don't try to seriously quantify anyone as truly right or wrong.
    Nobody said that all opinions can be right or wrong. But it really doesn't take a genius to figure out that certain opinions can be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuPu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    Then there's just opinion...y opinions. Like "I think this food is the smurfing dude". Don't try to seriously quantify anyone as truly right or wrong.
    Nobody said that all opinions can be right or wrong. But it really doesn't take a genius to figure out that certain opinions can be wrong.
    Oh yes, I'm going to argue this with you, the person who insists that all bands past 1995 suck and everyone who likes bands post-1995 has no musical taste and sucks eggs.

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    If it doesn't have "imho" then it shouldn't be counted no matter what imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
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    Then there's just opinion...y opinions. Like "I think this food is the smurfing dude". Don't try to seriously quantify anyone as truly right or wrong.
    Nobody said that all opinions can be right or wrong. But it really doesn't take a genius to figure out that certain opinions can be wrong.
    Oh yes, I'm going to argue this with you, the person who insists that all bands past 1995 suck and everyone who likes bands post-1995 has no musical taste and sucks eggs.
    In this quote: "I can't think of anything to prove him wrong, so I'll just make a personal jab at him." Besides, opinions can be wrong, as I said. After all, you certainly think mine are wrong.

    Also, not all bands. Just post grunge, metalcore, and nu metal bands. Nothing wrong with, say, hardcore punk.

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    Alright, lemme redo that post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    Then there's just opinion...y opinions. Like "I think this food is the smurfing dude". Don't try to seriously quantify anyone as truly right or wrong.
    Nobody said that all opinions can be right or wrong. But it really doesn't take a genius to figure out that certain opinions can be wrong.
    Oh yes, I'm going to argue this with you, the person who insists that all bands past 1995 suck and everyone who likes bands post-1995 has no musical taste and sucks eggs.
    Done. Notice, the this and you are italicized (instead of just you), arguing this argument with you would have both of us run around and circles and would waste x units of my time. No personal jab, just a statement of, "Not here and not ever."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    I love people who love Physics enough that the discussion of it makes them angry.
    No, argue it correctly. Show me a theory that gives us a different definition of light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboko View Post
    Done. Notice, the this and you are italicized (instead of just you), arguing this argument with you would have both of us run around and circles and would waste x units of my time. No personal jab, just a statement of, "Not here and not ever."
    Spoken as if it doesn't apply to nearly all arguments. But believe me, you don't have an argument.

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    If an opinion can't be wrong, how to Holocaust Deniers get convicted in Germany & Austria?

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    Because Germany is full of drunk nut jobs and Austria gave rise to Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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