"Clone" Characters in fighting games?

[Vyk]

First, a query of a clone engine. I remember not entirely too long ago playing a game with similar play to Soulcalibur however, despite all of its characters wielding a weapon, it featured none of the Soulcalibur characters. I can't remember the name of the game or any of the characters. I only know I rented it, relished it, and forgot to buy and now I have no idea what it was.

...I don't know if they make good Toh Shin Den games anymore. But if they do. That might have been it. That's a fighting game with weapons. What system was it for? On newer systems there's not a lot of games out there anymore that it could be. Tekken and DoA don't really use weaponry. Neither does Virtua Fighter. And... I can't think of any other 3D fighters...

[Mo-Nercy]

First, a query of a clone engine. I remember not entirely too long ago playing a game with similar play to Soulcalibur however, despite all of its characters wielding a weapon, it featured none of the Soulcalibur characters. I can't remember the name of the game or any of the characters. I only know I rented it, relished it, and forgot to buy and now I have no idea what it was.

...I don't know if they make good Toh Shin Den games anymore. But if they do. That might have been it. That's a fighting game with weapons. What system was it for? On newer systems there's not a lot of games out there anymore that it could be. Tekken and DoA don't really use weaponry. Neither does Virtua Fighter. And... I can't think of any other 3D fighters...

I thought it might be Toshinden too, but it's not a clone of Soulcalibur. Controls are quite different and it was a kind of faux-3D where the arena was 3D but you couldn't really move about in it a whole lot (there was side rolling, but it was slow).

It was a great game of it's time though. Characters like David with his chainsaw, Vermilion's two pistols, Sho who had an 'invisibility' attack, Ten Count and his uncanny resemblance to Michael Jackson. Geez, I loved that game.

Oh it was choc-full of clones that game. Every sub-boss was a clone. Only a few moves differed between some characters (David and Judgment were very similar, ditto Mondo and Toujin) whilst others shared weapon traits and combo execution strings but it would look different on screen (like Leon and Eiji or Kayin and Ten Count)