That was more than 30 years ago though and I don't think you know what a gamer is . It's someone who plays games. Casual and hardcore are separated by their input hours and dedication.
That was more than 30 years ago though and I don't think you know what a gamer is . It's someone who plays games. Casual and hardcore are separated by their input hours and dedication.
Personally speaking, I do consider myself as a lapsed gamer, seeing how I was and still am an arcade-type.
Yes, I do play:
Arcade:
--タツノコ VS Capcom: Cross Generation of Heroes
--Marvel VS Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes
--Dance Dance Revolution
--GuitarFreaks & drummania
--beatmania
--pop'n music
Wii:
No More Heroes 2
Tatsunoko VS Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars
Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles
Wario
Arc Rise Fantasia*
Metroid: The Other M*
DS:
Luminous Arc 2
Steal Princess
Final Fantasy III
The Legend of Kage 2
DBZ: Attack of the Saiyans
Phoenix Wright: Justice for All
Megaman ZX Advent
Pokemon Heart Gold*
Golden Sun*
*Technically, they're not out yet, as of this post; I'm just waiting for their releases.
However, with this talk of "hardcore", here is my personal opinion:
To be called a "hardcore gamer" ...in America, you MUST be any of these:
--a camper
--a Zerg rusher
--or, if you play Marvel VS Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes, you MUST pick either Cable, Sentinel, Magneto, or Storm religiously.
Hisui & Kohaku: I play as them in Melty Blood.
i dont think there is a "hardcore" or "casual" gamer, just the amount time spent playing video games. However if you turn into a zombie and lose most if not all your social skills and can only talk to your friends about stats, bosses, end-game crap stuff like that etc, then I think they have a problem. People who say "lol" in person annoy the crap out of me as well. stupid "1337kiddies". ¬_¬
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I subscribe to the Angry Joe definition of a Gamer.
A gamer is a person who is passionate about what it is they do. A gamer is the one who is waiting in line release day. A gamer will argue and debate what games are good and what ones are not, and have many reasons as to why. A gamer is the type of person who enjoys the smell of a freshly opened game case.
I don't really get why someone who just plays games from time to time can be called a gamer. Would you call every person who goes to watch a movie a movie buff? Would you call someone who drinks every so often an alcoholic? Would you call a 30 year old man who punched out a 15 year old kid for being a dick an ass kicker?
No my friend, you would not.
I think a mix of NeoCracker and Mirage's explanations (very overlapping) would be about perfect.
It would seem that, from most of the replies I've read, there's actually more disdain directed toward hardcore gamers than casual. Hardcore gaming carries with it that stereotyped notion of having little to no social life, living off instant noodles and playing in complete darkness on the hardest difficulty modes. There's no denying that there are people like that out there, but as Quin noted (and I agree with him), all of us at some stage lapse into a phase of hardcore gaming whenever something really appeals to us. But then there's the added variable of the game itself. Is my girlfriend, who plays the Sims daily and designs her own custom content, a hardcore gamer? I wouldn't say so.
But we're all looking at this from inside the box, because obviously, we're all gamers. I have no doubt that someone who doesn't play games would look at me and think I'm a hardcore gamer. To them, the definition of a hardcore gamer is someone who's been playing video games since they were kids and that's most of us.
your sig doesnt help with that post Mo! makes you look even sadder!
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Your sig makes me sad too. Almost 800px? What were you thinking?! xD
i was thinking of breaking the walls! i should get around to adjusting the sig though... but yeah gamer types, generalization of hardcore or causal gamers only because of advertising and stereotyping such as Nintendo saying it's made the Wii available to everyone (which it is) but also pumping a large amount of crap-ware games onto its platform so kids can play it and their parents looking and seeing that their kids playing with a fake dog or is actually moving around instead of just sitting on the sofa controller in hand. i'm not saying hardcore gamers lack the social skills but its the few that are who make others stereotype the rest of "hardcore" gamers. With a lack of social skills, hygiene issues and/or having hair they think is cool but everyone hates it (because of their hygiene issues) talking about games 24/7 and saying things like "lol" and "pwn". Another sort of people that ruin the image of "hardcore" gamer is the addicts like the recent news story of another couple not feeding their baby instead feeding an e-baby (i think it was in N-Korea). so game addicts and stubborn unwilling-to-change social inept people that play games ruin it for the rest of the people that are "hardcore" hence giving them a bad image.
There is no way to define "hardcore" and "casual" as there are many things that we could use to measure what defines a "hardcore" or "casual" gamer such as amount of games played or amount spent or even genre of game. But for me if we has to use a measure I would take time, like a person drinking, having one drink doesnt count as an alcoholic, having a few drinks over a week also doesn't mean they're an alcoholic, drinking everyday might mean they're an alcoholic, moreso if they drank by themselves everyday with no reason. With that if a person plays a game once in a while and not spend more than a few hours (if that) that could be the low end of casual, moving along the scale of playing a game every day for a few hours (eg farmville or animal crossing) that could start moving towards the middle-ish area of being more casual than hardcore . Then theres playing a game everyday for extended periods of time (say 5-6 hours a night) which I'd say be more hardcore than casual. Penultimately theres playing a game everyday straight after work/school and not doing anything else. Finally theres playing a game all day every day with other people (WoW addicts). Of course like the alcoholic thing, one factor could be when leaning towards more the "hardcore" end of the scale, the player starts playing alone even though it's multiplayer, they don't interact or communicate with other players and start to lose their social skills and scream at their monitors all the time. So casual > hardcore > addict.
just my two pennies
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If people think MLG is really hardcore, then you have got to be kidding. The real hardcore groups are those that keep the competitive scene up with their love of the game and less about the money/contracts those guys put up.
I usually say a hardcore gamer is someone who is willing to spend time in any type of game and then excel at it in some way. It doesn't mean you have to be the best of the best, but if you have enough of a passion for it and stick with the game to know it, then you are hardcore imo.
Casual gamers usually play it just to pass the time, or etc. I am casual on many games like FPSs, RPGs, or etc. I am neither great at these games nor do i excel and intend to do so. However when it comes to fighting games that are 2-D i am more willing to spend time to learn the in&outs, as well as higher competitive play. So i am hardcore in that aspect and spend alot of time in fighting game boards and arcades.
So Hardcore - willing to spend the time to learn the game inside out and really push the game to the limit, and Casual would be anyone who isn't but enjoys playing the game. This can span over multiple genres, but thats usually how i see it.
That, and hardcore gamers do things like normal people too. I mean just look at this!
Top SFIV player Justin Wong Karaokes with his friends X3
YouTube - Chris Hu Show Ep 2: Karaoke 5/5
I'm all those things and that's the best smell ever as far as I'm concerned.Originally Posted by NeoCracker
For me hardcore more has to do with the approach to gaming than the time spent, or games played. When I play a game I just about always try to improve and get as good at it as I can. I note every mistake I make, and try and find ways to be better next time.
I don't play a very large range of games at all, and in the last few years I haven't been logging a whole lot of total time. But I still consider myself a very 'hardcore' gamer.
Back when I played WoW I wasn't very motivated by getting better gear, not did I have a lot of spare time to play, so I was somewhat far behind on the gear progression. Instead of just treating the game as a mindless grind I used the time I did play to improve & learn my class inside and out I was usually told how remarkably good I was for the gear I had. Despite the fact that other people were investing dozens of hours more a week than I was, I considered myself more 'hardcore' than them because I was applying myself to the game more.
MLG gamers (as far as Halo goes) are whiny sacks ofand deserve no respect. Seriously? I can only use the Battle Rifle? All of the other weapons are for n00bs? I can't use the Hayabusa helmet 'cause those are for BKs and n00bs? Go smurf yourself with your overinflated ego.
I'm an arcade gamer first and foremost.
In other words, I'm a masochist.
Same here; heck, my gateway to gaming was the arcade!MLG gamers (as far as Halo goes) are whiny sacks of
I'm an arcade gamer first and foremost.
In other words, I'm a masochist.
Yeah, in relation to what I said earlier, to be called a "hardcore gamer" in Korea, you MUST be a Zerg rusher.
Hisui & Kohaku: I play as them in Melty Blood.
Me too. Certainly, it's not where I began, but it's where I inevitably end up these days if I've got a bit of coin.
Initial D, Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dance Dance Revolution was high school in a nutshell. So much money wasted =D
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