totally. that's why "open" was in quotations lol. so we're in agreement there, definitely. even if u wanted to consider it open or take a look at games that actually are "open world" exploration, it's overrated anyway. everyone's got their likes and dislikes, though. im more of a story guy anyways. what is an RPG without a story anyhow? a shell. kinda like cocoon.
yes, i'm a FFXIII fan.
Haven't finished but...
I love the Battle System. Can it be improved, hell yeah but what the game gives you is actually really good and with the exception of a few missteps here and there its definetly one of the better systems in the series.
Sazh - He is easily the games best character and will no doubt fall in line with other FF greats in the series. What makes Sazh stand out in comparison to the rest of the class is that he is instantly likable and probably the only truly realistic member of your party. He avoids the RPG Cliches (though sufferes from a few racial ones...) and he just gets better as the game goes along. His story is probably the most heart wrenching without being overly melodramatic like the rest of the cast. He is also has a freaking Frocobo and is the games best comic relief as well as its only voice of reason.
Gran Pulse -Its been more fun than the rest of the game so far and is easily the most awe inspiring location in the title. Its a shame the game waits so long to introduce it to you.
True beauty exists in things that last only for a moment.
Current Mood: And it's been a long December and there's reason to believe. Maybe this year will be better than the last. I can't remember all the times I tried to tell myself. To hold on to these moments as they pass...
I wish this thread was a little larger. the hate thread is so large because there's so many people throwing arguments back and forth. instead of arguing, why don't people who truly love the game post here and ignore the people who will not be swayed no matter what you say, and people who dislike the game (and some who haven't even played it?...) can stay in the hate thread.
i think the fact of the matter about this game is that many people hate the game for the same reasons people love the game. in a few years, once a few more FF titles have come out, this game will probably be remembered well, as most FFs that come into fire when they first come out do. it's different, yes. but most FFs are. that's the point on the series. these are not direct sequels of each other, they're individual entities that retain similar qualities of the other games. and does this game have many similar qualities? absolutely. but apparently they weren't the right qualities for every FF fan to embrace it. if this game didn't have FFXIII as the title and was called Cocoon Saga or something and it didn't have all these sweeping expectations to be the savior of final fantasy and RPGs in general (which is just ridiculous anyways, because no game could do that), and every one just accepted it for what it is and tried to enjoy it with no predispositions, i think a lot of the hate would be dimmed down. true, people just straight up don't like the systems or the story or whatever, but that's every single game in history.
short in short, i love it. probably always will. and ive taken the path of not letting anyone else' negative opinion on the game affect me, since ive also read many positive reviews (professional and non) and that's that. GI gave it a 9.25, and really...when it comes down to the only professional opinion that i truly respect, that's just dandy. but on the same token, they said the weakest link of the game is the story and dialogue. and i love both the story and the character's interactions, though typical of a JRPG or FF as they may be. although i daresay the character growth and relationships are anything that you could call the same as FFs from even a few years ago. fact is, they worked hard on making this aspect of the game mature from the rest of the series, and i appreciate it. and love it.
SO IN SUMMARY, everyone should just stop the arguing...and just accept that not all of us are going to agree and its really pointless to try and force our opinions on other people. so people who like it come here, and people who hate it go to the threads dedicated as such. woot.
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yes, i'm a FFXIII fan.
I love everything except the weapon upgrading system.
Seriously. EVERYTHING, except that. Which I hate passionately.
The game could've been longer, too.
No but when I saw this thread title, I was thinking about character shippings and formulated the idea that Hope is in love with Snow. It's so obvious.
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They would make a cute couple, only if Hope was older, lolOriginally Posted by No.78
Big detractor of the game here, but here's some small things I dig:
-The Analects that open up (SPOILER)during Ch. 11. It's not very substantial, but I'm a huge geek when it comes to details like that. I love it in XII and and in Elder Scrolls, too. I just wish XIII integrated them a bit more into the gameplay and exploration. They just kind of mysteriously appear in the datalog after killing random marks, which is odd.
-Field banter. More please! I was kind of hoping that once I got to Pulse Fang and Vanille would be belting out tidbits of info like tour guides. Like, instead of info mysteriously appearing in the datalog, they could tell the Cocoonians about old cities, Pulse culture, or general pieces of information that they have no way of knowing otherwise.
-Mark hunting. I like grinding. Grinding's fun to me especially when progress is made slowly but satisfyingly. Opening up new areas for doing marks is actually quite a reward for my curious little mind - I just wish it all felt a bit more natural (ie: why do random palings cut off certain areas that only a dead palette-swap can bring down?)
Lots of the things I like aren't really fully realized and take a bit of suspension of disbelief on the player's part (which is kind of silly considering the resources SE have), but they're still pretty good. FFXIII isn't really a labour of love by SE (it really does seemed slapped together in a number of areas), but there's still some sparks of intrigue to be found.
YES! I love her facial animation and how her face kind of drops when the wheels in her head are turning or when she comes to an unexpected realization. Excellent work by the SE artists - on all of the character models, really. Spectacular.Anyway, Lightning has some of the best voice-acting ever IMO, and her animations are wicked
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I like Lightning's Sentinel pose and the way she provokes the enemies for some reason.
After seeing the ending and being ultimately disappointed, it did make me think of one thing the game did well story-wise: the Bodhum flashbacks! I thought they were very well implemented and effective and I generally looked forward to each one. It's nice to see the characters being people because XIII has a good cast (with good voice acting) that unfortunately got sold pretty short by the end.
i like the sheep lol! would have been cooler with cows!
Hm, I don't think I've mentioned this anywhere else.
FFXIII is the only game with AI characters that I have ever found enjoyable to play.
YES, THE SHEEPS ARE THE MOST AWESOME SHEEPS EVER TO EXIST.
Yes, caps were definitely necessary. I think a thread needs to be made to appreciate the epicness of the sheep in FFXIII.
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Field banter. The one liners. These made FFXIII so enjoyable for me; to hear the other characters talking as they run around the world with you made it much more immersive than silent companions simply following five feet behind. I also liked how characters would run off to check things out/sit down while waiting for you to catch up.
Sazh: *running over thin piece of metal in Lake Bresha* Do not shake the bridge! Do NOT shake the bridge! (or something to that effect)
Vanille: If you get scared, just close your eyes!
I hope they keep this kind of interaction in every future FF. Hell, when I make my awesome RPG (one dayyyy) I will use it, too.
Word!
Yes.Thank God they didnīt followed you roboticaly like on FF8.
Nor keep close to you like on FFXII.
Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
Flo: 15:30
Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45
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Big D
I want to do my bit to spread the love as well. I love everything mentioned above and am on my second playthrough and loving every minute of it. I think the game is exquisite.
One of the things I am enjoying the most is subtle dialogue referring to plot items yet to be revealed. I am also enjoying weapon/accessory upgrading with the help of my newly purchased guide book - also a lovely item.
I tried to play another game (fairly new release) this weekend just gone and it just seemed crude and uncouth after playing FFXIII.
I can't wait for the next one.
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